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Aging is.............
#31
Posted 02 January 2009 - 03:37 AM
#32
Posted 02 January 2009 - 03:48 AM
#33
Posted 02 January 2009 - 03:58 AM
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#34
Posted 02 January 2009 - 05:32 AM
Along those lines, aging is being a pussy not worried about dying.
My pussy is much, much, much ... bigger than your pussy.
#35
Posted 02 January 2009 - 05:41 AM
#36
Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:16 AM
It is the single greatest threat to humanity, made all the more so by the extent to which it is tolerated, accepted and even (bizarrely) endorsed.
#37
Posted 02 January 2009 - 06:35 PM
Aging is a crippling, disfiguring, degenerative, terminal condition.
It is the single greatest threat to humanity, made all the more so by the extent to which it is tolerated, accepted and even (bizarrely) endorsed.
What he said.
Your killing me out here guys. I come to imminst, work on various projects, do some promotions and persuasion, read up on stuff, watch life extension videos, but mostly, most importantly wait of discussion on these radical topics to develop. The few of us working on projects and discussing this stuff around here cant do this by ourselves. We need you. We've been waiting for 6 years for the discussion to pick up. The time has never been better, things are happening and we need these discussions to happen along with them. Hundreds and hundreds of radical life extension pioneering minded people come and go because they dont see any radical discussion here. We need them to stay.
I created an "active topics 2" link in a topic, It wasnt the best idea, but I thought it might work, it didnt. I created a topic called something like, "3 main forums to go to at imminst" and listed 3 and then bumped the topic all the time. That didnt work. So I created the "72 team project" in which I listed 72 radical topics for people to comment on and brief reasoning next to each one. Theres been like 40 views of it with just two people joined up, one of whom I had to practically beg, and still Im sitting around the second biggest organization for the most crucial monumental cause ever undertaken in the history of humanity waiting for active discussion to develop.
Can we discuss some radical life extension topics? Get some more ideas flowing? Show potential people passing through that we're serious? Join the 72 team project today. Read the intro for it along with watching the video in it. Its supposed to be deeply inspiring.
#38
Posted 03 January 2009 - 12:43 AM
In fact it is the ultimate waste of time and not even fun.
#39
Posted 03 January 2009 - 01:18 AM
Aging is a crippling, disfiguring, degenerative, terminal condition.
It is the single greatest threat to humanity, made all the more so by the extent to which it is tolerated, accepted and even (bizarrely) endorsed.
What he said.
Your killing me out here guys. I come to imminst, work on various projects, do some promotions and persuasion, read up on stuff, watch life extension videos, but mostly, most importantly wait of discussion on these radical topics to develop. The few of us working on projects and discussing this stuff around here cant do this by ourselves. We need you. We've been waiting for 6 years for the discussion to pick up. The time has never been better, things are happening and we need these discussions to happen along with them. Hundreds and hundreds of radical life extension pioneering minded people come and go because they dont see any radical discussion here. We need them to stay.
I created an "active topics 2" link in a topic, It wasnt the best idea, but I thought it might work, it didnt. I created a topic called something like, "3 main forums to go to at imminst" and listed 3 and then bumped the topic all the time. That didnt work. So I created the "72 team project" in which I listed 72 radical topics for people to comment on and brief reasoning next to each one. Theres been like 40 views of it with just two people joined up, one of whom I had to practically beg, and still Im sitting around the second biggest organization for the most crucial monumental cause ever undertaken in the history of humanity waiting for active discussion to develop.
Can we discuss some radical life extension topics? Get some more ideas flowing? Show potential people passing through that we're serious? Join the 72 team project today. Read the intro for it along with watching the video in it. Its supposed to be deeply inspiring.
That's not much to ask. I'll take you up on that.
#40
Posted 03 January 2009 - 05:08 AM
If we fail to take control, aging will intervene the only way it knows how.
#41
Posted 04 January 2009 - 06:44 AM
#42
Posted 04 January 2009 - 11:14 AM
Also, no point stressing out about something outside of your ability to control.
Be calm. Do not be concerned. Those able, toil on your behalf.
#43
Posted 04 January 2009 - 04:26 PM
#44
Posted 04 January 2009 - 04:27 PM
Aging is only a problem if you can't reverse it.
Also, no point stressing out about something outside of your ability to control.
Be calm. Do not be concerned. Those able, toil on your behalf.
Advocacy, exposure and support are great ways to help control the outcome of anti aging research. Politicians that support this stuff get elected by masses of people that have been informed about this cause and the state of anti aging research. Philanthropic people give money to things like sens and other promising anti aging research when they are informed about its, SENS could use a good 100 million a year but they arent getting it yet, the NIA and others could use a lot more money to undertake a lot more of the research they would like to to this end. Exposure is helping and will help that more. Being calms is one thing but being idle is another. I dont know why your not concerned but I hope you become concerned because we need it. There are generations of smart able kids who are choosing their paths in life. We want to get them informed about anti aging science and get more kids to take this much needed path. Besides all that, for those currently working on this that toil on our behalf, we toil on their behalf to get them more money, more people working with them, more all around support.
#45
Posted 04 January 2009 - 04:51 PM
Aging is... a privilege.
#46
Posted 04 January 2009 - 05:06 PM
A slightly different philosophical perspective:
Aging is... a privilege.
Aging is a torture. Birth is a privelege.
#47
Posted 04 January 2009 - 07:32 PM
...aging is also gaining wisdom and perspective.
Aging is experiencing more of life and all it has to offer.
Aging is what sets adults apart from children.
Aging sucks when you just get weaker and leads to death, but if aging didn't have that aspect it would be awesome, right?
#48
Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:07 AM
#49
Posted 10 January 2009 - 02:39 AM
Aging is growing older and frail... for now... but...
...aging is also gaining wisdom and perspective.
Aging is experiencing more of life and all it has to offer.
Aging is what sets adults apart from children.
Wisdom comes from maturity, learning, experience and survival not aging.
Aging in the form of decay is a consequence of biology and time but it is not necessary in itself for achieving the desired result of growth, maturity, perspective, wisdom and enjoying life.
We certainly can tell the kids from the adults without it.
#50
Posted 10 January 2009 - 02:41 AM
Living is ageing.
Aging is dying, to quote the old joke: "The absolute number one leading cause of death is birth".
We don't need to age to live. We need to love to live, live to learn, and learn to love but aging is not requisite to achieve that.
#51
Posted 19 January 2009 - 04:53 PM
#52
Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:12 PM
#53
Posted 13 February 2009 - 05:19 PM
Aging is bad, anti-aging is great
#54
Posted 13 February 2009 - 06:29 PM
#55
Posted 13 February 2009 - 06:36 PM
#56
Posted 13 February 2009 - 09:47 PM
Edited by brokenportal, 13 February 2009 - 09:49 PM.
#57
Posted 14 February 2009 - 02:08 AM
As a species, aging is a necessary evil. With each generation comes the opportunity to test a new evolutionary formula. Therefore, from a species perspective, aging facilitates evolution and genetic refinement, which is good.Aging is holding us back as a species.
From an individual perspective aging is a terrible shame.
#58
Posted 14 February 2009 - 04:01 AM
As a species, aging is a necessary evil. With each generation comes the opportunity to test a new evolutionary formula. Therefore, from a species perspective, aging facilitates evolution and genetic refinement, which is good.Aging is holding us back as a species.
Nah, I'm not buy what you're selling. The hypothesis that aging is an adaptation has been out of fashion for a while now. Same goes for group selection theories. Same goes for theories which argue that biological evolution is still taking place to any significant degree in the human species. Of course this is all debatable, but we're just stating our opinions here, aren't we?
Yes, one could say that turnover is a good thing because it creates fresh perspectives. However I look around me and I see a societal dynamic operating according to a cellular automaton model which is profoundly encumbering. With such brutishly short life spans is it any wonder that we are so short-sighted as a species? I remember this Emerson quotation (and I may be butchering it) which goes, "Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood." What this world is sorely lacking is wisdom. And perhaps with wisdom also comes the flexibility to keep things fresh.
#59
Posted 14 February 2009 - 08:52 AM
Given that a reasonable argument to support the notion of programmed aging is beyond the scope of this post and the direction set by the topic I'll resign myself to the position that youre a stochastist and Im not. Ultimately, it does not matter which school of thought we ascribe to in terms of the evolution of aging. What matters is our collective commitment to accepting that aging is a solvable biological problem. However, the school of thought plays an important role in terms of how hypotheses for testing solutions for addressing aging are devised. Consequently, a stochastist will approach the problem from the classic SENS doctrine that aging follows no pattern and is addressed by repair. On the other hand, a non-stochastist will seek to elucidate the underpinnings behind the developmental program that drives aging and seek to alter that program. Once again, it doesn't matter who is ultimately right as, in time, it is likely that both approaches will merge. But it makes for a fascinating debate..
#60
Posted 14 February 2009 - 11:17 AM
*from placebo
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