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#61 Dmitri

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:10 PM

these supplements should be the foundation for everyone's regimen. In short, below are the singular supplements (not multi-formulations, like a multi-vitamin) that provide the most bang-for-the-buck. The benefits are universal to everyone, convincingly well researched, and highly desirable for protecting a person's health. These are the current superstars, and between them have research stats showing that may reduce all-cause mortality by at least 50% -- potentially much higher.

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o Resveratrol -- wide-ranging benefits, especially in terms of cardiovascular health and cancer prevention. May also extend human lifespans by positively expressing our survival genes. 250mg a day recommended.


Nice list though isn't 250 RSV an impure form? People have mentioned having problems with forms that are not 98 or 99% pure. Anyway, I'm surprised to see R-Lipoic Acid missing the list, what are your thoughts on that supplement?

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:43 PM

Sure we have evolved to eat eggs, but we haven't evolved to consume dioxins and the various other toxic chemicals...

So the dioxins are coming from the feed and environment, sort of like mercury accumulating in fish. Something I'll look into further.

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:46 PM

Nice list though isn't 250 RSV an impure form? People have mentioned having problems with forms that are not 98 or 99% pure. Anyway, I'm surprised to see R-Lipoic Acid missing the list, what are your thoughts on that supplement?

I recommend pure RSV. Although mixing it with tween80 seems like a good idea.

I take 500mg of R-lipoic acid daily. But, unlike the supplements on my list, I'm not as sure lipoic acid will increase lifespan. Same with CoQ10 (any form).

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 09:01 PM

Nice list though isn't 250 RSV an impure form? People have mentioned having problems with forms that are not 98 or 99% pure. Anyway, I'm surprised to see R-Lipoic Acid missing the list, what are your thoughts on that supplement?

I recommend pure RSV. Although mixing it with tween80 seems like a good idea.

I take 500mg of R-lipoic acid daily. But, unlike the supplements on my list, I'm not as sure lipoic acid will increase lifespan. Same with CoQ10 (any form).


I thought only 1,000 mg capsules/tablets were pure, I'll have to check out Revgenetics to make sure.

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 09:28 PM

Nice list though isn't 250 RSV an impure form? People have mentioned having problems with forms that are not 98 or 99% pure. Anyway, I'm surprised to see R-Lipoic Acid missing the list, what are your thoughts on that supplement?

I recommend pure RSV. Although mixing it with tween80 seems like a good idea.

I take 500mg of R-lipoic acid daily. But, unlike the supplements on my list, I'm not as sure lipoic acid will increase lifespan. Same with CoQ10 (any form).


I thought only 1,000 mg capsules/tablets were pure, I'll have to check out Revgenetics to make sure.


The size of the dose has nothing to do with purity of the RSV. Whether it be 5 mg of 5g, the purity is dependant simply on the product you buy (no matter who your supplier is--most suppliers, these days, offer some sort of 99% pure RSV).

EDIT: Look at your bottle (or look at the product label of an item you're thinking of buying to see its purity). They should mark it clearly.

Edited by suspire, 24 December 2008 - 09:29 PM.


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Posted 24 December 2008 - 11:14 PM

Duke, you ever hear of anyone taking niacin by itself? My body seems to have problems consuming the other b vitamins in supplement form (maybe I'm just not getting a good ratio).

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 11:18 PM

Nice list though isn't 250 RSV an impure form? People have mentioned having problems with forms that are not 98 or 99% pure. Anyway, I'm surprised to see R-Lipoic Acid missing the list, what are your thoughts on that supplement?

I recommend pure RSV. Although mixing it with tween80 seems like a good idea.

I take 500mg of R-lipoic acid daily. But, unlike the supplements on my list, I'm not as sure lipoic acid will increase lifespan. Same with CoQ10 (any form).


I thought only 1,000 mg capsules/tablets were pure, I'll have to check out Revgenetics to make sure.


The size of the dose has nothing to do with purity of the RSV. Whether it be 5 mg of 5g, the purity is dependant simply on the product you buy (no matter who your supplier is--most suppliers, these days, offer some sort of 99% pure RSV).

EDIT: Look at your bottle (or look at the product label of an item you're thinking of buying to see its purity). They should mark it clearly.


The reason I thought 1,000 Mg was the only pure form was because I have seen lower dosages and none seem to have 98 or 99% purity (perhaps it‘s the brand?). However, I'm not going to use RSV since I'm not sure about it's long term use/safety. I'll stick with safer supps like Green Tea, D3 and Vit C.

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 11:19 PM

Also, what is everyones take on Vitamin D supplements vs natural sunlight. I'm not always the biggest fan of Mercola, but he is backing the information that vitamin d through supplements might actually be immunosuppressive vs that of sunlight. Any light on this? (no pun intended) Do we need to be pulling out the UVB machines in the winter?

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 11:26 PM

Also, what is everyones take on Vitamin D supplements vs natural sunlight. I'm not always the biggest fan of Mercola, but he is backing the information that vitamin d through supplements might actually be immunosuppressive vs that of sunlight. Any light on this? (no pun intended) Do we need to be pulling out the UVB machines in the winter?


I think the problem with sunlight is that it can age your skin something we don't want; sunscreens could possibly block D3 production.

Edited by Dmitri, 24 December 2008 - 11:27 PM.


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Posted 24 December 2008 - 11:57 PM

I am a bit new to the coconut oil research but what do you think of the possible cholesterol issues? Also, from reading this review the weight loss data in humans doesnt seem too great or atleast fairly mixed. What are you thoughts?


Coconut lowers LDL, VLDL and Triglycerides & Raises HDL

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Posted 25 December 2008 - 05:45 AM

I am a bit new to the coconut oil research but what do you think of the possible cholesterol issues? Also, from reading this review the weight loss data in humans doesnt seem too great or atleast fairly mixed. What are you thoughts?


Coconut lowers LDL, VLDL and Triglycerides & Raises HDL


Oddly, I've gotten some serious immune suppression shortly following bumping my d3 intake from 400iu to 4000iu per day... I need to get my levels tested, might just be stress/poor sleep quality...

Hey Duke: how much melatonin do you take nightly (or do you take it at night :) ). When I took it daily, I believe that my body downregulated endogenous production, leading to 2 consecutive sleepless nights when discontinuing supplementation. Do you concomitantly supplement tryptophan?

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Posted 25 December 2008 - 04:27 PM

I am a bit new to the coconut oil research but what do you think of the possible cholesterol issues? Also, from reading this review the weight loss data in humans doesnt seem too great or atleast fairly mixed. What are you thoughts?


Coconut lowers LDL, VLDL and Triglycerides & Raises HDL


Oddly, I've gotten some serious immune suppression shortly following bumping my d3 intake from 400iu to 4000iu per day... I need to get my levels tested, might just be stress/poor sleep quality...

Hey Duke: how much melatonin do you take nightly (or do you take it at night :) ). When I took it daily, I believe that my body downregulated endogenous production, leading to 2 consecutive sleepless nights when discontinuing supplementation. Do you concomitantly supplement tryptophan?

I don't take tryptophan. I take 6mg time released melatonin about an hour before falling asleep.

Testing for D in your blood is simple and relatively cheap. Dr. William Davis at the Heart Scan Blog tries to get all of his patients in the 60-70 ng/ml range. This is for treatment of known coronary plaque. About two-thirds this level is likely a good target for younger, healthy people.

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Posted 25 December 2008 - 04:41 PM

Duke, Have you built a tolerance to melatonin and do you supplement with it every day? I have noticed if I take 3 mg sublingual before bed, I sleep great but feel mentally foggy into the mid-morning the next day, 1 mg seems fine for me. I was just surprised to see 6 mgs.

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Posted 25 December 2008 - 08:38 PM

Duke, you ever hear of anyone taking niacin by itself? My body seems to have problems consuming the other b vitamins in supplement form (maybe I'm just not getting a good ratio).

Sorry, but my understanding is that b vitamins are in no way similar and play many different, independent roles and it is just an unfortunate coincidence that all of them are termed b-something, because it makes people think they need to supplement a b-complex or a certain ratio of b vitamins. Please anyone correct me now, if I am blatantly wrong.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 07:00 AM

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Game Developers? Maybe they (or you, judging from your name) can tell me why this new DNF media is lacking anti-aliasing!? (UE3's lack of support perhaps): http://www.shacknews...4ae86a4ba4a.jpg - cool, but they should have done something about that promo image... maybe render at higher resolution and scale it down at least. They've ruined the appeal.

3d Realms affiliation? - I used to be a fan. Unfortunately I don't game much anymore.

Back on Topic: That seems like a good all-star supplement list. I was going to point out the half-life of K2 MK4 vs MK7, but I see that has been addressed. I've been wanting to incorporate coconut oil into my diet. I'll do that along with GLA or Borage, and some more olive oil.

I'm also surprised you use 6mg time-released melatonin. That seems like a high dosage. From what I've gathered, healthy people shouldn't really need that much. I noticed that my mother has seemingly repeatedly responded better to the 750mcg time-released than the 3mg, but I can't be certain.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:13 PM

Duke, Have you built a tolerance to melatonin and do you supplement with it every day? I have noticed if I take 3 mg sublingual before bed, I sleep great but feel mentally foggy into the mid-morning the next day, 1 mg seems fine for me. I was just surprised to see 6 mgs.

I pretty much always sleep well and wake up easily in the morning. I've never experienced brain fog. I know some people who are older that take even more, but I don't plan to increase my dosage until I think the current one isn't working well. Maybe the time-released aspect of the pill I take helps.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:18 PM

a forum populated by game developers


Game Developers? Maybe they (or you, judging from your name) can tell me why this new DNF media is lacking anti-aliasing!? (UE3's lack of support perhaps): http://www.shacknews...4ae86a4ba4a.jpg - cool, but they should have done something about that promo image... maybe render at higher resolution and scale it down at least. They've ruined the appeal.

3d Realms affiliation? - I used to be a fan. Unfortunately I don't game much anymore.

Back on Topic: That seems like a good all-star supplement list. I was going to point out the half-life of K2 MK4 vs MK7, but I see that has been addressed. I've been wanting to incorporate coconut oil into my diet. I'll do that along with GLA or Borage, and some more olive oil.

I'm also surprised you use 6mg time-released melatonin. That seems like a high dosage. From what I've gathered, healthy people shouldn't really need that much. I noticed that my mother has seemingly repeatedly responded better to the 750mcg time-released than the 3mg, but I can't be certain.

Big time whoops! I've been stating my melatonin dosage in mg, when I should have been using mcg. I take 6 mcg every night.

Edited by DukeNukem, 26 December 2008 - 05:18 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:20 PM

Do you think Pycnogenol would be effective for the inflamation caused by plantar faciitis? Also, I am already underweight and don't want to lose any. It seems really expensive, where do u get it?

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:26 PM

Nice list though isn't 250 RSV an impure form? People have mentioned having problems with forms that are not 98 or 99% pure. Anyway, I'm surprised to see R-Lipoic Acid missing the list, what are your thoughts on that supplement?

I recommend pure RSV. Although mixing it with tween80 seems like a good idea.

I take 500mg of R-lipoic acid daily. But, unlike the supplements on my list, I'm not as sure lipoic acid will increase lifespan. Same with CoQ10 (any form).

I have read some posts here that point to emodin and some of the other compounds may actually have significant health benefit as well unlike what had been thought early on. Any thoughts on that> I can't remember the specifics. I will try and look it up.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:28 PM

a forum populated by game developers


Game Developers? Maybe they (or you, judging from your name) can tell me why this new DNF media is lacking anti-aliasing!? (UE3's lack of support perhaps): http://www.shacknews...4ae86a4ba4a.jpg - cool, but they should have done something about that promo image... maybe render at higher resolution and scale it down at least. They've ruined the appeal.

3d Realms affiliation? - I used to be a fan. Unfortunately I don't game much anymore.

Back on Topic: That seems like a good all-star supplement list. I was going to point out the half-life of K2 MK4 vs MK7, but I see that has been addressed. I've been wanting to incorporate coconut oil into my diet. I'll do that along with GLA or Borage, and some more olive oil.

I'm also surprised you use 6mg time-released melatonin. That seems like a high dosage. From what I've gathered, healthy people shouldn't really need that much. I noticed that my mother has seemingly repeatedly responded better to the 750mcg time-released than the 3mg, but I can't be certain.

Big time whoops! I've been stating my melatonin dosage in mg, when I should have been using mcg. I take 6 mcg every night.

6mcg? I have heard of 300mcg, 500mcg, 1000mcg/1mg, 3mg, 5mg, and 10mg. So 300 mcg is the lowest have seen...
6 mcg sounds inconsequential.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:55 PM

a forum populated by game developers


Game Developers? Maybe they (or you, judging from your name) can tell me why this new DNF media is lacking anti-aliasing!? (UE3's lack of support perhaps): http://www.shacknews...4ae86a4ba4a.jpg - cool, but they should have done something about that promo image... maybe render at higher resolution and scale it down at least. They've ruined the appeal.

3d Realms affiliation? - I used to be a fan. Unfortunately I don't game much anymore.

Back on Topic: That seems like a good all-star supplement list. I was going to point out the half-life of K2 MK4 vs MK7, but I see that has been addressed. I've been wanting to incorporate coconut oil into my diet. I'll do that along with GLA or Borage, and some more olive oil.

I'm also surprised you use 6mg time-released melatonin. That seems like a high dosage. From what I've gathered, healthy people shouldn't really need that much. I noticed that my mother has seemingly repeatedly responded better to the 750mcg time-released than the 3mg, but I can't be certain.

Big time whoops! I've been stating my melatonin dosage in mg, when I should have been using mcg. I take 6 mcg every night.

6mcg? I have heard of 300mcg, 500mcg, 1000mcg/1mg, 3mg, 5mg, and 10mg. So 300 mcg is the lowest have seen...
6 mcg sounds inconsequential.

Crap! I still can't get it right -- I should have said 600mcg. Geeze! Maybe I do have brain fog. :)

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 06:07 PM

does anyone know why many of the weight loss supplement has white willow bark in it? does it function similar as caffein?


what kind of supplement can maintain a better metabolism?
does a person live healthier with better metabolism? how to achieve this while avoiding potential harmful ingredients, i know pretty much most weight loss supplements are harmful for long-term use, they are some unknow herbs , lead to kidney and liver damages.

i excercise, but i need something to boost my metabolism since i am always lack of sleep, and live with a lot of stresss,,,, like everyone else..

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 08:08 PM

White willow bark is the hippie version of aspirin.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 08:22 PM

White willow bark is the hippie version of aspirin.


I believe the term is the "ethnobotanically correct" form of ASA. :-D

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 04:44 AM

Nice list though isn't 250 RSV an impure form? People have mentioned having problems with forms that are not 98 or 99% pure. Anyway, I'm surprised to see R-Lipoic Acid missing the list, what are your thoughts on that supplement?

I recommend pure RSV. Although mixing it with tween80 seems like a good idea.

I take 500mg of R-lipoic acid daily. But, unlike the supplements on my list, I'm not as sure lipoic acid will increase lifespan. Same with CoQ10 (any form).


I have a question about Green Tea, does it matter where you get it from? I use Lipton's tea bags, are they any good?

I use the variety flavored pack that contains the following:

Flavonoid content (per cup):

-Orange, Passionfruit & Jasmine: 60 mg
-Lemon Ginseng: 120 mg
-Honey: 55 mg
-Mint: 75 mg
-Mixed Berry: 75 mg
-100% Green Tea: 190 mg

Edited by Dmitri, 27 December 2008 - 04:45 AM.


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Posted 28 December 2008 - 04:35 PM

Nice list though isn't 250 RSV an impure form? People have mentioned having problems with forms that are not 98 or 99% pure. Anyway, I'm surprised to see R-Lipoic Acid missing the list, what are your thoughts on that supplement?

I recommend pure RSV. Although mixing it with tween80 seems like a good idea.

I take 500mg of R-lipoic acid daily. But, unlike the supplements on my list, I'm not as sure lipoic acid will increase lifespan. Same with CoQ10 (any form).


I have a question about Green Tea, does it matter where you get it from? I use Lipton's tea bags, are they any good?

I use the variety flavored pack that contains the following:

Flavonoid content (per cup):

-Orange, Passionfruit & Jasmine: 60 mg
-Lemon Ginseng: 120 mg
-Honey: 55 mg
-Mint: 75 mg
-Mixed Berry: 75 mg
-100% Green Tea: 190 mg


Try to find another brand, Lipton is very low quality (ironically, I am drinking Lipton black tea as I type this). For my green tea, I drink Taylors of Harrogate, and I get 50 bags for about $6 at whole foods. This brand isn't even great (though it's pretty good), and I am sure I can do better. My point is that you can get a lot more for your money out there than Lipton.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 09:47 PM

Nice list though isn't 250 RSV an impure form? People have mentioned having problems with forms that are not 98 or 99% pure. Anyway, I'm surprised to see R-Lipoic Acid missing the list, what are your thoughts on that supplement?

I recommend pure RSV. Although mixing it with tween80 seems like a good idea.

I take 500mg of R-lipoic acid daily. But, unlike the supplements on my list, I'm not as sure lipoic acid will increase lifespan. Same with CoQ10 (any form).


I have a question about Green Tea, does it matter where you get it from? I use Lipton's tea bags, are they any good?

I use the variety flavored pack that contains the following:

Flavonoid content (per cup):

-Orange, Passionfruit & Jasmine: 60 mg
-Lemon Ginseng: 120 mg
-Honey: 55 mg
-Mint: 75 mg
-Mixed Berry: 75 mg
-100% Green Tea: 190 mg


Try to find another brand, Lipton is very low quality (ironically, I am drinking Lipton black tea as I type this). For my green tea, I drink Taylors of Harrogate, and I get 50 bags for about $6 at whole foods. This brand isn't even great (though it's pretty good), and I am sure I can do better. My point is that you can get a lot more for your money out there than Lipton.


What's a better brand (aside from the one you mentioned)? Also, how do you determine the quality of supplements? I was under the impression the more expensive the better, though I notice that a lot of people buy the less expensive supplements that you could find at Vitamin Shoppe (country life, jarrow formulas, Carlson laboratories, etc).

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 06:29 AM

Nice list though isn't 250 RSV an impure form? People have mentioned having problems with forms that are not 98 or 99% pure. Anyway, I'm surprised to see R-Lipoic Acid missing the list, what are your thoughts on that supplement?

I recommend pure RSV. Although mixing it with tween80 seems like a good idea.

I take 500mg of R-lipoic acid daily. But, unlike the supplements on my list, I'm not as sure lipoic acid will increase lifespan. Same with CoQ10 (any form).


I have a question about Green Tea, does it matter where you get it from? I use Lipton's tea bags, are they any good?

I use the variety flavored pack that contains the following:

Flavonoid content (per cup):

-Orange, Passionfruit & Jasmine: 60 mg
-Lemon Ginseng: 120 mg
-Honey: 55 mg
-Mint: 75 mg
-Mixed Berry: 75 mg
-100% Green Tea: 190 mg


Try to find another brand, Lipton is very low quality (ironically, I am drinking Lipton black tea as I type this). For my green tea, I drink Taylors of Harrogate, and I get 50 bags for about $6 at whole foods. This brand isn't even great (though it's pretty good), and I am sure I can do better. My point is that you can get a lot more for your money out there than Lipton.


What's a better brand (aside from the one you mentioned)? Also, how do you determine the quality of supplements? I was under the impression the more expensive the better, though I notice that a lot of people buy the less expensive supplements that you could find at Vitamin Shoppe (country life, jarrow formulas, Carlson laboratories, etc).



I don't know, I just go by taste. Once you start drinking green tea and just trying different brands, you'll quickly be able to discern quality.

Price can be an indicator, but just as with any other product in the market, it doesn't automatically mean better. In order to find the best of the best, you just have to have the patience to research.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 07:34 AM

Big time whoops! I've been stating my melatonin dosage in mg, when I should have been using mcg. I take 6 mcg every night.

I weigh 80 kilograms, that is 80,000,000 mcg. Even LSD uses higher doses than single mcgs.

Edited by lynx, 29 December 2008 - 07:45 AM.


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Posted 29 December 2008 - 02:09 PM

You either weigh 80 grams, or you mean 80.000.000.000 mcg. ;-)




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