Really tried to include them all. Have a go.
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 04:54 AM
Posted 05 January 2009 - 07:29 AM
Edited by rwac, 05 January 2009 - 07:31 AM.
Posted 05 January 2009 - 08:13 AM
Posted 05 January 2009 - 10:20 AM
deep sleep
Posted 05 January 2009 - 04:21 PM
Edited by Pike, 05 January 2009 - 04:24 PM.
Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:26 PM
Posted 05 January 2009 - 10:28 PM
You chose some really strange things to group together: desmopressin, amantadine, neurontin? They have nothing in common, at all. Nonetheless, good effort putting the poll together. I voted for tea, ALCAR, EFA's, and piracetam.
Edited by steelsky, 05 January 2009 - 10:36 PM.
Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:11 PM
Posted 06 January 2009 - 11:41 PM
Edited by pycnogenol, 07 January 2009 - 12:14 AM.
Posted 07 January 2009 - 01:41 AM
hey steelsky
I wanted to comment about your L-Huperzine A thing:
I have since tried L-Huperzine A, and WOW it worked. This is what I did:
Since I know that people remember the most right before they sleep and after they wake up...
- I took 100mcg L-Huperzine A before reading a book for a couple hours before going to sleep. (incidentally, I also had a lucid dream that night)
- Woke up today morning (after a nice full night's rest =D) around 6am and took another one along with my daily stack w/breakfast, then read my book again for about an hour Stopped after that. (which was about 7:45ish)
- Doing my best to space them out about 5 hours apart, doing good with that.
I will say that this one is AMAZING. WOW. It's about 1pm right now, and I still remember close to EVERYTHING that happened during the book I was reading last night and this morning. With a strange sort of "photographic imaginary memory." It's weird. The best way to describe it is that I can vividly remember the scenes and images that I was creating while I read the book! It's kind creepy, actually... but in a cool sort of way.
My theory is, which has thus far been pretty bang-on, that the key to an enjoyable and effective Nootropic experience is to responsibly make sure you have a consistent schedule of multiple administrations. I do my best to make sure I administer everything at least 4 times a day, even if that means I take a miniscule dose each time.
Hope that helps for the next time you want to try L-Hup!
-Pike
Posted 07 January 2009 - 01:43 AM
Posted 07 January 2009 - 02:23 AM
hey steelsky
I wanted to comment about your L-Huperzine A thing:
I have since tried L-Huperzine A, and WOW it worked. This is what I did:
Since I know that people remember the most right before they sleep and after they wake up...
- I took 100mcg L-Huperzine A before reading a book for a couple hours before going to sleep. (incidentally, I also had a lucid dream that night)
- Woke up today morning (after a nice full night's rest =D) around 6am and took another one along with my daily stack w/breakfast, then read my book again for about an hour Stopped after that. (which was about 7:45ish)
- Doing my best to space them out about 5 hours apart, doing good with that.
I will say that this one is AMAZING. WOW. It's about 1pm right now, and I still remember close to EVERYTHING that happened during the book I was reading last night and this morning. With a strange sort of "photographic imaginary memory." It's weird. The best way to describe it is that I can vividly remember the scenes and images that I was creating while I read the book! It's kind creepy, actually... but in a cool sort of way.
My theory is, which has thus far been pretty bang-on, that the key to an enjoyable and effective Nootropic experience is to responsibly make sure you have a consistent schedule of multiple administrations. I do my best to make sure I administer everything at least 4 times a day, even if that means I take a miniscule dose each time.
Hope that helps for the next time you want to try L-Hup!
-Pike
Interesting.
I never tried more than 50mcg daily... and it was Huperzine A without the "L-", which I reckon is meant to increase its bio-availability, meaning I got even less than 50mcg.
I still got some stuff to try out (Aniracetam and deprenyl), but I'll keep an eye for l-huperzine. If enough positive posts appear - I might try it. Still, the WOW effect you describe might be personal. From reading many threads (and from common sense), different drugs have different effects with different people, and it'd be wise to assume that it is because of the "interaction" between their specific physiologies - meaning that one might benefit from elevated dopamine levels because he's "low" on it at default, while another would benefit from acetylcholine because his brain might be less susceptible to it. Accordingly, for you, acetylcholine might be the right stuff, while for me, for example, Norepinephrine might be.
See "Your favorite noot?" thread
I agree about multiple administrations. But I trust users reach these naturally when they notice something to work.
Edited by Pike, 07 January 2009 - 02:26 AM.
Posted 07 January 2009 - 04:05 PM
Edited by pycnogenol, 07 January 2009 - 04:08 PM.
Posted 08 January 2009 - 08:34 AM
Off the top of my head, I believe Huperzine A is just a synonym for L-Huperzine A, (just like people often refer to it as Hup). From the comparative shopping I did, Cognitive-Nutrition seems to have the best deal on L-Huperzine A... that is, until I can find a supplier of them in bulk.
I do agree with you on the note that different substances affect everyone in different ways. I'm just lucky in that I've responded remarkably well to all of the Noots I've taken so far. The huperzine might have had that "synergistic" effect on me, seeing as I had already taken a miniature stack of nootropics that day already.
Posted 10 January 2009 - 07:57 PM
Posted 11 January 2009 - 09:07 AM
Surprisingly - Deprenyl and Modafinil got a pretty low score, but I guess it is reasonable considering that they are drugs, while the items that got the highest scores - herbs, coffee and tea and such - are just supplements, so are more "natural".
Are Racetams considered drugs or supplements?
Posted 11 January 2009 - 05:39 PM
Surprisingly - Deprenyl and Modafinil got a pretty low score, but I guess it is reasonable considering that they are drugs, while the items that got the highest scores - herbs, coffee and tea and such - are just supplements, so are more "natural".
Are Racetams considered drugs or supplements?
Probably because Modafinil is schedule IV and hard to acquire (expensive). I would say that it is most effective (interpret as helpful, but not amazing -- caffeine like) nootropic that I have tried, although I consider it more of a stimulant than a nootropic. As I mentioned in my other post, Deprenyl is a bit dangerous to use because it can build up in your system.
Posted 11 January 2009 - 05:57 PM
Posted 11 January 2009 - 08:13 PM
Steelsky: I remember reading SEVERAL posts that have a laundry list of precautions to be aware of when taking Deprenyl. Majority of those posts also reccomend not taking them until you're way past 18yo (though, that may not necessarily apply to you).
Also, as someone with ADHD, I have (recreationally) tried Modafinil. The thing I enjoy about it most is that, though it may be a CNS stim, it's not a PNS stim, so it's generally just a good concentration supporter. Unfortuantely, Modafinil is extremely expensive, and the treatments for which it has been diagnosed for are also very specific. The good thing about Modafinil is that it comes in cheaply made precursors! Thus, Adrafinil to the rescue! Most people are turned off by Adrafinil, because they believe that all of it's "Modafinil" properties are gone in an hour, but this is terribly wrong. The 'half-life' of Adrafinil is simply the time that it's being metabolized into Modafinil! Careful, though, with both. They can be quite taxing on the liver.
Also, steelsky: I am pretty sure LifeMirage on BrainMeta was able to verify that claim, however, seeing as that is just anecdotal back-up from an internet source, I wouldn't be too sure.
NOW..... back on topic.
I've yet to update my Log (which there will be a GIANT one coming up), however, upon recent experimentation, I will say that WITHOUT A DOUBT, my favorite noot is a tie between IDEBENONE and VINPOCETINE. Seriously, Idebenone is such an underrated noot. It's effects are close to instantly noticeable, and since it's half-life in HUMANS is so amazingly long (18 hours), a responsible regimen of constant administrations only builds up the effects. So, since I'm torn between 2 noots now, I will wait until I can say which I find better.
Edited by steelsky, 11 January 2009 - 08:21 PM.
Posted 14 January 2009 - 10:55 AM
Posted 14 January 2009 - 09:56 PM
Posted 14 January 2009 - 11:44 PM
pricetam is my no1, all kinds of fruits work for me in the long run.
Posted 16 January 2009 - 11:31 PM
Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:34 AM
yes it is.
Posted 15 February 2009 - 09:05 PM
Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:24 AM
Polls like this IMHO can be misleading as opinion usually revolves around what somone has tried and has access to. It misleads people into thinking certain noots are more effective even tho modafinil is a very powerful noot many dont have access to it and wont order it online. thus it wont be found to be the favorite noot for many just die to the fact they havent tried it whereas caffine is freely available to everyone and thus would have it's results coloured as a result.
It's nice to see views and opinions on these subjects but you should not decide the effectiveness of a noot based on opinions such as this. I think it's been well established that certain noots have no effect on some people and vast effects on others. The only real way to find out is to try it and see how you are effected by it.
Posted 20 February 2009 - 04:00 PM
deep sleep
Posted 20 February 2009 - 07:41 PM
deep sleep
Yes! - works definitely and reliably for me at 51 years!
Posted 21 February 2009 - 01:17 PM
I take Huperzine-A ("HupA") infrequently and I gotta say from personal experience it definitely has a Pamelor* quality to it and with fewer side effects.
(*generic name: nortriptyline)
- pycnogenol
Posted 07 March 2009 - 06:23 PM
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