LONGECITY

Five grams per liter is way too much c60.  The highest concentration I've ever seen is 0.9 mg/ml (900 mg/liter).  If you are just shaking it, I'd use a lower concentration, like half a gram per liter.   The metallic taste and nausea is a distinctly bad sign.  Something has probably gotten contaminated.  I'd discard that batch, and start over with fresh olive oil and clean equipment.   I've never heard anyone complain about the quality of SES 99.95%, or their lower purity products either.  Are you using the same c60 as earlier, or is it a new sample?  If you've had the same olive oil for a long time, it's possible that it has become rancid.  I'd get a new bottle.

... the great difference in their skin tone and mine and then be curious as to why my skin looks 20+ years younger than theirs. Little wrinkling. No sagging. It's obvious.

 

Not in any way trying to disparage C60's unique properties, but could it be that some of the other supplements (or creams/serums , if applicable) that you have in your regimen that are (at least somewhat) responsible for these great cosmetic effects?

Has the rest of the regimen not changed at all and this is why you attribute your youthful look solely to C60oo?

 

What else are you taking that, in your opinion, could also help in maintaining an excellent skin condition?

 

Again, I am genuinely curious.

I've mentioned in a much earlier thread that I found it eased the symptoms of COPD . I have a small amount of emphysema this normally gets worse over time. Original diagnosis confirmed by an X Ray and spirometry tests about 7 years ago.
Recently I had another X Ray after changing to a new doctor when I moved to a different part of the UK I was told by my doc that I had hyperventilated while the X Ray was taken. This could be due to me taking to deep a breath or a symptom of the emphysema. So I then had a number of spectrometry tests 9 in all and the tests came up as my breathing being normal.

 

Soz to go off topic but were the recent tests after you started taking GHK/GHK-Cu Pleb?

I ask because:

 

"...we identified GHK as a compound that can reverse the gene-expression signature associated with emphysematous destruction and induce expression patterns consistent with TGF beta pathway activation. Treatment of human fibroblasts with GHK recapitulated TGF beta-induced gene-expression patterns, led to the organization of the actin cytoskeleton, and elevated the expression of integrin beta1. Furthermore, addition of GHK or TGF beta restored collagen I contraction and remodeling by fibroblasts derived from COPD lungs compared to fibroblasts from former smokers without COPD..."
http://www.skinbiolo...copd-genes.html

Edited by Logic, 11 October 2015 - 10:15 AM.

The spiromatry tests were just before starting GHK. I had the GHK use on hold and stored in the freezer until the posts about it being genuine or fake were resolved.

I repost here because I just posted it in the wrong thread.....

Something puzzles me.
I'm on my third batch of home made c60OO, 99.95% pure, from SES Research.
First time 5gr/liter, first through mortar and pestle, then shacking every day for 2 to 3 weeks.
Second time 1gr/liter, no mortar & pestle, shacking as above.
Third and current: 5gr/liter, no mortar, shacking as usual.
PROBLEM: this time it's got a very very strong metallic taste and gives me quite an unpleasant feeling in the stomach + a sense of nausea.
The VOO is always the same one.

What do you think is the issue?
Thanks!!

 

 

You asked about concentration before, and niner advised you to use .5 mg/ml--the same as .5 g/l, which you possibly meant. I always make it at .8 g/l, as that seems sufficiently below saturation to keep it from precipitating out. And as C60 has never changed the taste in my experience, there must be some source of contamination. So did this oil come in a can, or did you mix it in a can? Did you taste it before mixing?

Is 99.95% preferable rather than 99.5% or vice versa?

Is 99.95% preferable rather than 99.5% or vice versa?

 

It's hard to say.  Baati used a high purity level.  People here have used various purity levels and I don't recall anyone noticing anything different between them.  The impurity (the other 0.5 or 0.05%) is mostly C70.  Luna has several C70-based compounds that have very promising bioactivities.  Turnbuckle made some C70 olive oil, and thought that it was causing some weird pains.  I've not tried a lower purity C60 yet, although it's on my list of things to do someday.  I'm not necessarily convinced that every single commercial supplier out there uses high purity material, but have no data that says they don't.

 

You asked about concentration before, and niner advised you to use .5 mg/ml--the same as .5 g/l, which you possibly meant. I always make it at .8 g/l, as that seems sufficiently below saturation to keep it from precipitating out. And as C60 has never changed the taste in my experience, there must be some source of contamination. So did this oil come in a can, or did you mix it in a can? Did you taste it before mixing?

 

 

I prepare the mixture in a "craft way" if I may say so.

As a consequence when I use pestle & mortar I believe there is a certain amount of waste. I.E.: 1gr/lt is more likely to be .8 or .9/lt; 5gr probably 4.8/lt.

And did not have any weird reaction to the previous batches.

That said: I don't get this thing about contamination  ...

The EVOO is always the same one. It comes in a dark glass bottle. I mix it directly in the bottle but, no, did not taste it before mixing...

Test subject:
48 yo woman with asthma who has never taken C60oo or any other supps.

I gave her about 2 ml of C60oo from:
http://upgradedself.co.za/

She says her lungs 'felt cool'  from a hot, scratchy state, within 2 hours and that she could breath better. (sounded better too)

She has been sleeping very well without coughing.  

The effect lasted 1.5 weeks.

 

I have just given her another dose and will report back if anything changes

 

I'm an asthmatic too, exercise induced, and I just noticed I still am working on my Ventolin inhaler from an outdated prescription.  No doubt C60/OO has had a beneficial effect in my case.

 

 

You asked about concentration before, and niner advised you to use .5 mg/ml--the same as .5 g/l, which you possibly meant. I always make it at .8 g/l, as that seems sufficiently below saturation to keep it from precipitating out. And as C60 has never changed the taste in my experience, there must be some source of contamination. So did this oil come in a can, or did you mix it in a can? Did you taste it before mixing?

 

 

I prepare the mixture in a "craft way" if I may say so.

As a consequence when I use pestle & mortar I believe there is a certain amount of waste. I.E.: 1gr/lt is more likely to be .8 or .9/lt; 5gr probably 4.8/lt.

And did not have any weird reaction to the previous batches.

That said: I don't get this thing about contamination  ...

The EVOO is always the same one. It comes in a dark glass bottle. I mix it directly in the bottle but, no, did not taste it before mixing...

 

 

It sounds like you mega-concentrated the solution by going over 1g/l ( It sounds like it was indeed 5 g/l , not .5g/l based on repeated statements). 

 

It also appears that you consumed such a highly concentrated mixture before. If yes, what were the effects, if any?

Well,
Not only did it taste funny etc. but the colour was strange too, black as opposed to violet...
Didn't happen with the previous " high concentration" one.
The effects seem to be the same as with lower concentration:
Gray hair turning back to previous colour, quick recovery if getting a cold, improved phisical endurance.
I haven't seen any difference so far between high and low concentration

 

 

 

You asked about concentration before, and niner advised you to use .5 mg/ml--the same as .5 g/l, which you possibly meant. I always make it at .8 g/l, as that seems sufficiently below saturation to keep it from precipitating out. And as C60 has never changed the taste in my experience, there must be some source of contamination. So did this oil come in a can, or did you mix it in a can? Did you taste it before mixing?

 

 

I prepare the mixture in a "craft way" if I may say so.

As a consequence when I use pestle & mortar I believe there is a certain amount of waste. I.E.: 1gr/lt is more likely to be .8 or .9/lt; 5gr probably 4.8/lt.

And did not have any weird reaction to the previous batches.

That said: I don't get this thing about contamination  ...

The EVOO is always the same one. It comes in a dark glass bottle. I mix it directly in the bottle but, no, did not taste it before mixing...

 

 

It sounds like you mega-concentrated the solution by going over 1g/l ( It sounds like it was indeed 5 g/l , not .5g/l based on repeated statements). 

 

It also appears that you consumed such a highly concentrated mixture before. If yes, what were the effects, if any?

 

 

 

This wouldn't be a mega concentrated solution. It would be part slurry, part colloidal suspension of nC60, and most of this undissolved material wouldn't be absorbed at all. And that is fine, because nC60 is not going to do you any good. In fact, it can be toxic.

 

Cells incubated with nC60 showed a decrease in cell viability, and the quantities of cell apoptosis increased significantly in a dose-dependent and time-dependent manner.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/25531262

 

What's a little cellular apoptosis amongst friends? Lol...

 

I'm just waiting for the first hypochondriac to mention to their general physician they have been consuming mass quantities of nano-carbon fullerenes!  And oh yeah, the name is wrong on their insurance card, it should be Napolean Bonaparte.

Well,
Not only did it taste funny etc. but the colour was strange too, black as opposed to violet...
Didn't happen with the previous " high concentration" one.
The effects seem to be the same as with lower concentration:
Gray hair turning back to previous colour, quick recovery if getting a cold, improved phisical endurance.
I haven't seen any difference so far between high and low concentration

 

Thank you for the report.

 

Given that this is supposedly your second 5g/l mix and since you haven't seen any difference in effects between 1 g/l and the first 5 g/l version, what was the rationale behind your making a second 5g/l solution? More is better?

Not at all
I simply ordered a 1gr little vial and received a 5gr one instead
Impossible for me to split it in 5 parts....

I think I'll try to dilute it now adding another lt ov evoo......

LoL. It must look like mud. Your going to need a lot of oil to dilute that down to somewhere near normal if it's already mixed. Depending how much you have left of course.?

I discarded the "black one" and started a second bottle thet I had ready, mixed with the same proportions.
This batch looks and tastes fine, nice violet colour and smooth consistence
But I'll dilute it nevertheless

Not at all
I simply ordered a 1gr little vial and received a 5gr one instead
Impossible for me to split it in 5 parts....

I think I'll try to dilute it now adding another lt ov evoo......

 

I would go with 4 more Liters.
And freeze the surplus?

Why freeze?
One of the caractheristics of OO is that it lasts intact for ages if kept at reasonably cool temperatures...

Not at all
I simply ordered a 1gr little vial and received a 5gr one instead
Impossible for me to split it in 5 parts....

I think I'll try to dilute it now adding another lt ov evoo......

 

 

Buy a gram scale on Ebay for $5 or less and divide the C60 into 5 one gram parts.

I took 100ML of c60 from carbon slowly from June-Oct 2014 . Just giving my quick anecdote before I re-dose.

 

Age: 33

Besides the fatigue early on and extra endurance while actively taking c60.

 

I believe I've had significant de-greying (around 50% less grey facial hair, never had but a few rogue grays on my head) which happened summer 2015, around 6 months after my last dose. No proof that's just my anecdote, and I occasionally also take small amounts of he shou wu, fo ti (purportedly reduces grays.) I continue to have no wrinkles so nothing I can say there.

 

No health issues have occurred in the past year, and I generally have felt a more vital than usual. I'm mainly posting this to say it did not make me sick.

Could someone please direct me to the thread and page # of the posts that discussed the calculated amount of C60 in each cell of the body at certain dosages of C60oo? I believe it was Turnbuckle that came up with the calculation. Thanks

Here is a home made C60-evoo preparation that has worked well for me after reading the guidance of other frequent Forum contributors like Turnbuckle, Niner and others.

 

Recipe:

1.0 gram SES 99.9% purified C60

1200 mL Trader Joe's Kalamata EVOO, $8.99/1L

 

Transferred 1.0 gram SES C60 powder into Vktech Mortar and Pestle,Stainless Steel (Amazon).  Ground dry C60 powder vigorously for about 2 minutes until dry grinding did not appear to comminute the powder further.  To ground powder in mortar added with a plastic pipette 2 mL evoo.  Wet ground about 30 seconds to an inky deep brown slurry.  Using same pipette transferred slurry into 1500 mL clear narrow mouthed glass jar.  Then from the Trader Joe's Kalamata EVOO bottle dripped into the mortar about 3 - 5 mLs EVOO and worked with pestle to rinse off all internal surfaces of mortar & pestle.  With each small aliquot of EVOO used to rinse mortar & pestle transferred each portion into the 1500 mL clear glass jar.  Repeated rinses of mortar & pestle about ten times with 3 - 5 mL EVOO until all stainless steel surfaces looked shiny and clean.  At this point was confident that all the C60 powder was transferred into 1500 mL clear glass jar.  

 

To the 1500 mL clear glass jar poured the remaining EVOO from the 1L bottle from Trader Joe's.  Opened a second 1 L bottle of Trader Joe's Kalamata EVOO.  Measured out 200 mL into a Pyrex measuring cup, then poured this into the 1500 mL clear glass jar.  The total EVOO liquid in the clear glass jar should total about 1200 mL.  Capped the jar with a polyseal cap and shook vigorously.

 

Shook clear glass jar with C60/EVOO mixture vigorously for 30 seconds 2 - 3 times per day.  Within 72 hours the c60 appeared to have completely solublized into the EVOO to provide a light rose colored water clear liquid.  After sitting for a few hours just a whisper of black residue was visible on the bottom of the jar.

 

I decant off the liquid into 9 brown glass 125 mL wide mouth polyseal cap jars, leaving a small amount of EVOO with the whisper of black residue in the clear mix jar to discard.  You can filter the C60-EVOO liquid easily with 0.45 micron glass fiber syringe filters, but it seems as though the C60 has fully dissolved as the EVOO adduct.  I freeze these jars then thaw one by one for use.

 

This method is way faster and the resulting C60-EVOO solution has a color much closer to that from the C60oliveoil.com versus the coca-cola color of products from VW or BuckyLabs.  The first time I prepared C60-EVOO I crudely crushed the 99.9% SES C60 in a small bowl with the back of a spoon.  It took literally 3 weeks for the C60 to solublize and the resulting C60-EVOO liquid was coca-cola color, not faint reddish.  So it appears that the longer the C60 is at room temperature in air it progresses toward the coca-cola color as I've used the same Trader Joe's EVOO and the color of this as purchased olive oil product doesn't seem to vary greatly to my eye.

 

I've wondered if C60oliveoil.com does something similar, crushing to a fine powder &/or inerts their mixing process with an atmosphere of nitrogen, argon or carbon dioxide to preclude oxidation.

 

Anyway, thought I would share. 

Thanks for sharing. This is very helpful for me as I am just starting this journey!

 

I would be interested in knowing if anyone has seen any new follow up studies on C-60 tied to mouse or rate longevity?

 

Many thanks

 

R

Test subject:
48 yo woman with asthma who has never taken C60oo or any other supps.

I gave her about 2 ml of C60oo from:
http://upgradedself.co.za/

She says her lungs 'felt cool'  from a hot, scratchy state, within 2 hours and that she could breath better. (sounded better too)

She has been sleeping very well without coughing.  

The effect lasted 1.5 weeks.

 

I have just given her another dose and will report back if anything changes

 

The 2nd dose seemed to last about 3 weeks, indicating a buildup of C60...?

She now has a bottle of her own C60oo, so any further experiments on the lengthening of time between doses/effect are over sadly.

Edited by Logic, 08 November 2015 - 09:34 AM.

 

... the great difference in their skin tone and mine and then be curious as to why my skin looks 20+ years younger than theirs. Little wrinkling. No sagging. It's obvious.

 

Not in any way trying to disparage C60's unique properties, but could it be that some of the other supplements (or creams/serums , if applicable) that you have in your regimen that are (at least somewhat) responsible for these great cosmetic effects?

Has the rest of the regimen not changed at all and this is why you attribute your youthful look solely to C60oo?

 

What else are you taking that, in your opinion, could also help in maintaining an excellent skin condition?

 

 

 

 

MSM-Sulfur has wonder impact on the skin. I have been taking 1 teaspoon a day in a shot of water for a couple of years. Several women have stated that my skin is perfect, compared to theirs.. and they use cosmetics to improve theirs. Google Sulfur + skin benefits. 

 

 

... the great difference in their skin tone and mine and then be curious as to why my skin looks 20+ years younger than theirs. Little wrinkling. No sagging. It's obvious.

 

Not in any way trying to disparage C60's unique properties, but could it be that some of the other supplements (or creams/serums , if applicable) that you have in your regimen that are (at least somewhat) responsible for these great cosmetic effects?

Has the rest of the regimen not changed at all and this is why you attribute your youthful look solely to C60oo?

 

What else are you taking that, in your opinion, could also help in maintaining an excellent skin condition?

 

 

 

 

MSM-Sulfur has wonder impact on the skin. I have been taking 1 teaspoon a day in a shot of water for a couple of years. Several women have stated that my skin is perfect, compared to theirs.. and they use cosmetics to improve theirs. Google Sulfur + skin benefits. 

 

 

Turnbuckle, I believe, was the first to report his wrinkles melting and scars fading from C60oo. 

 

Shortly thereafter I noticed both, too, as did friends that volunteered, without prompting, who asked why my skin looked younger.

 

In my case, I'm certain that it was and is C60oo.

 

It's one thing I will always take.

Here is a home made C60-evoo preparation that has worked well for me after reading the guidance of other frequent Forum contributors like Turnbuckle, Niner and others.

 

Recipe:

1.0 gram SES 99.9% purified C60

1200 mL Trader Joe's Kalamata EVOO, $8.99/1L

 

Transferred 1.0 gram SES C60 powder into Vktech Mortar and Pestle,Stainless Steel (Amazon).  Ground dry C60 powder vigorously for about 2 minutes until dry grinding did not appear to comminute the powder further.  To ground powder in mortar added with a plastic pipette 2 mL evoo.  Wet ground about 30 seconds to an inky deep brown slurry.  Using same pipette transferred slurry into 1500 mL clear narrow mouthed glass jar.  Then from the Trader Joe's Kalamata EVOO bottle dripped into the mortar about 3 - 5 mLs EVOO and worked with pestle to rinse off all internal surfaces of mortar & pestle.  With each small aliquot of EVOO used to rinse mortar & pestle transferred each portion into the 1500 mL clear glass jar.  Repeated rinses of mortar & pestle about ten times with 3 - 5 mL EVOO until all stainless steel surfaces looked shiny and clean.  At this point was confident that all the C60 powder was transferred into 1500 mL clear glass jar.  

 

To the 1500 mL clear glass jar poured the remaining EVOO from the 1L bottle from Trader Joe's.  Opened a second 1 L bottle of Trader Joe's Kalamata EVOO.  Measured out 200 mL into a Pyrex measuring cup, then poured this into the 1500 mL clear glass jar.  The total EVOO liquid in the clear glass jar should total about 1200 mL.  Capped the jar with a polyseal cap and shook vigorously.

 

Shook clear glass jar with C60/EVOO mixture vigorously for 30 seconds 2 - 3 times per day.  Within 72 hours the c60 appeared to have completely solublized into the EVOO to provide a light rose colored water clear liquid.  After sitting for a few hours just a whisper of black residue was visible on the bottom of the jar.

 

I decant off the liquid into 9 brown glass 125 mL wide mouth polyseal cap jars, leaving a small amount of EVOO with the whisper of black residue in the clear mix jar to discard.  You can filter the C60-EVOO liquid easily with 0.45 micron glass fiber syringe filters, but it seems as though the C60 has fully dissolved as the EVOO adduct.  I freeze these jars then thaw one by one for use.

 

This method is way faster and the resulting C60-EVOO solution has a color much closer to that from the C60oliveoil.com versus the coca-cola color of products from VW or BuckyLabs.  The first time I prepared C60-EVOO I crudely crushed the 99.9% SES C60 in a small bowl with the back of a spoon.  It took literally 3 weeks for the C60 to solublize and the resulting C60-EVOO liquid was coca-cola color, not faint reddish.  So it appears that the longer the C60 is at room temperature in air it progresses toward the coca-cola color as I've used the same Trader Joe's EVOO and the color of this as purchased olive oil product doesn't seem to vary greatly to my eye.

 

I've wondered if C60oliveoil.com does something similar, crushing to a fine powder &/or inerts their mixing process with an atmosphere of nitrogen, argon or carbon dioxide to preclude oxidation.

 

Anyway, thought I would share. 

 

I used this process (thick spoon handle and stainless measuring cup sub for mortar/pestle) and got the same results. I scaled by 1/4, and shake in a mason jar (canning type).  The ruby color is evident on day 1.  I used 99.95% from SES

 

I use a digital milligram scale -- it measures 10.005g when using the calibration weight.  It cost $20 on amazon

Edited by sensei, 08 December 2015 - 04:05 PM.

While I've been off the c60 I've started on a course of high doses of vitamin D (averaging 20-25Kui a day with K2, mag, Cod Liver oil). Would the combination of c60 help reduce the risk of calcium build up in the blood? I also plan on dry fasting in the new year with probably high doses of vitd present and c60 (I have taken quite large doses of c60 between dry fasts before).