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NSI-189

AuralAnomaly's Photo AuralAnomaly 05 Aug 2013

Some quick suggestions:

- Considering that the mechanism of action of NSI-189 is to keep neural progenitor cells alive, there may be potential synergy in maximizing neurogenesis by other means, thus providing the NSI-189 a larger pool of cells to work with.
One approach would be cardiovascular exercise done at a time of greatest circadian neurotrophic responsiveness. Googling "circadian neurogenesis" will bring up rat studies that when phase inverted for humans suggest peak neurotrophic response to exercise at around noon.

- The cell cycles for proliferation differentiation and migration take 2 to 3 weeks to complete. This could suggest multiple small doses throughout the day would make better use of our limited supply than single large doses.
Edited by AuralAnomaly, 05 August 2013 - 09:39 PM.
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FrankMH's Photo FrankMH 05 Aug 2013

Forgot to type that my plateau is 57% at D5B.


you guys are crazy, I could never even imagine myself breaking past D4B


I know! Breaking Single 4 Back is hard enough for me!
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Reformed-Redan's Photo Reformed-Redan 05 Aug 2013

Hey does anyone know what's going on with ASTM? I've been looking at this stock on Friday and today and it's gone up some 60%. If you invested in it a week ago you could have doubled your money by today. There isn't any news indicating this surge. Is it pure speculation or related to some other event I'm unaware of. Has anyone been following NBS also? It also has surge dramatically over the past month.
Edited by yadayada, 05 August 2013 - 10:34 PM.
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ScienceGuy's Photo ScienceGuy 06 Aug 2013

UPDATE:

Hi everyone,

Just to confirm I did indeed mail all packages to USA participants yesterday (Monday); meaning that all packages have now been dispatched to all participants who have paid. :)
Edited by ScienceGuy, 06 August 2013 - 07:35 PM.
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sparkk51's Photo sparkk51 06 Aug 2013

After reading your attempts to squeeze in time during the past week, I've come to realize just how grateful I should be that you( and sunshinefrost) took on the entire responsibility. Thank you so much for your efforts, and I hope that the results of NSI-189 are very beneficial to you two.
Edited by sparkk51, 06 August 2013 - 08:35 PM.
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Metagene's Photo Metagene 06 Aug 2013

Thank's alot Science Guy! Sorry I accidently down reped your post. ( iPhone touchscreen Doh!)
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ranza's Photo ranza 06 Aug 2013

In case there are any leftovers from people who flaked out (didn't pay) I'm ready to jump it by direct payment through paypal/bank transfer.
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neopeon's Photo neopeon 06 Aug 2013

Science Guy-- any feedback on how you're feeling? I know it's only been a few days, but would love to know!
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zeroskater6979's Photo zeroskater6979 06 Aug 2013

i suggest participants complete their planned trial period before posting anything (like preliminary subjective experience to avoid placebo effect on others) and focus on objective data.
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meatsauce's Photo meatsauce 07 Aug 2013

Im thinking that using the powder intranasally will have more of it reach the brain but maybe it wont make a difference vs oral.
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megatron's Photo megatron 07 Aug 2013

Im thinking that using the powder intranasally will have more of it reach the brain but maybe it wont make a difference vs oral.


It's designed to have a high oral bioavailibility. There's no point in using another (more risky method of administration). I'm not quiet sure, but doesn't snorting powder cut off the brain's blood supply for a short period of time?
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meatsauce's Photo meatsauce 07 Aug 2013

Yes I know it's very bioavalable but I know certian drugs like peptides are supposed to reach the CNS in higher concentrations with intranasal delivery vs other methods of administration so I am thinking that it may be the same with nsi-189.
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sunshinefrost's Photo sunshinefrost 07 Aug 2013

Science Guy-- any feedback on how you're feeling? I know it's only been a few days, but would love to know!


Any feedback SG ?
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ScienceGuy's Photo ScienceGuy 07 Aug 2013

UPDATE:

Hi everyone,

Here are the ANALYSIS REPORTS for the NSI-189. ;)

Firstly, HNMR ANALYSIS that confirms it is NSI-189; and secondly, HPLC ANALYSIS, which confirms the PURITY = 99.9% :)

Attached Files


Edited by ScienceGuy, 07 August 2013 - 07:34 PM.
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sunshinefrost's Photo sunshinefrost 07 Aug 2013

UPDATE:

Hi everyone,

Here are the ANALYSIS REPORTS for the NSI-189. ;)

Firstly, HNMR ANALYSIS that confirms it is NSI-189; and secondly, HPLC ANALYSIS, which confirms the PURITY = 99.9% :)


Amazing
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ScienceGuy's Photo ScienceGuy 07 Aug 2013

Science Guy-- any feedback on how you're feeling? I know it's only been a few days, but would love to know!


Any feedback SG ?


I am currently undergoing a washout period break from taking the NSI-189, following which I will recommence taking it; this is so as to establish whether the immediate-type effects I have observed in the first instance of taking it are repeated... If I manage to find the time I may try to do it BLIND ;)

I like to test substances a bit more comprehensively before forming my opinions :)
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neopeon's Photo neopeon 07 Aug 2013

Science Guy, thanks for the update!!! Can you tell us what your "immediate-type" effects were? Thank you.
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ScienceGuy's Photo ScienceGuy 07 Aug 2013

Science Guy, thanks for the update!!! Can you tell us what your "immediate-type" effects were? Thank you.


Hey Neopeon,

I do realize you have asked this a couple of times, so I did not want you to think I was ignoring you or being evasive by not replying before :)

If OK with you I would like to wait until after my lab rat has recommenced being administered the second round of dosing with it before commenting in that regard... just being thorough... I don't want to risk saying "it does this" only to then have to post "no wait, actually it doesn't" ;)
Edited by ScienceGuy, 07 August 2013 - 08:04 PM.
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Sholrak's Photo Sholrak 07 Aug 2013

I feel no hurry to know what it does, as I'm yet trying to figure out what Cerebrolysin does :laugh:

Take time to know what it does and then tell us. I believe is better don't run on this. Anyway, until lots of time, there won't be a drug like this. So basically, in my opinion, NSI-189 is the reasonable ceiling of nootropics. It should take more time, a least the 28 days course, and even the following month(s) after the therapy to make a veredict.

It's not Piracetam or and SSRI or some 'quickfixing' substance. It's BIG shit :)
Edited by Sholrak, 07 August 2013 - 08:26 PM.
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ScienceGuy's Photo ScienceGuy 07 Aug 2013

Regarding FUTURE GROUP BUYS, if you haven't done so already check out this thread by CALIBAN on the NEW LONGECITY PRIVATE GROUPS SYSTEM, which is ideal for managing GROUP BUYS: LONGECITY PRIVATE GROUPS ;)
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neopeon's Photo neopeon 07 Aug 2013

Science Guy, thanks for the update!!! Can you tell us what your "immediate-type" effects were? Thank you.


Hey Neopeon,

I do realize you have asked this a couple of times, so I did not want you to think I was ignoring you or being evasive by not replying before :)

If OK with you I would like to wait until after my lab rat has recommenced being administered the second round of dosing with it before commenting in that regard... just being thorough... I don't want to risk saying "it does this" only to then have to post "no wait, actually it doesn't" ;)


SG, thanks for the update. Sorry if i seem like I've been pestering, just really excited to hear about your brave new adventure! I look forward to reading your updates when the time is right. I wish you the best of success with the results-- I don't think you have to worry about improving your courage or initiative or patience. it seems like you have all those qualities covered!
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xks201's Photo xks201 08 Aug 2013

So has anyone started a private 2nd group buy for NSI through the new group buy forum system?
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unregistered_user's Photo unregistered_user 08 Aug 2013

<----- standing by anxiously for reports on experiences.

Another triumph of a thread, ScienceGuy. ;)
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singerdude's Photo singerdude 08 Aug 2013

All anticipation indicators are in the red over here, but I think that when my part gets here, I'll muster all my strength and hold off until the experience reports start a-flowing.

Utmost respect and grateful thanks to Sunshinefrost and ScienceGuy
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Psionic's Photo Psionic 08 Aug 2013

Some quick suggestions:

- The cell cycles for proliferation differentiation and migration take 2 to 3 weeks to complete. This could suggest multiple small doses throughout the day would make better use of our limited supply than single large doses.


I wonder why do you think that dosing multiple times a day can have a better results on cell cycles migration which takes 2-3 weeks?
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AuralAnomaly's Photo AuralAnomaly 08 Aug 2013

Because I'm an idiot and don't think before speaking :P

I presumed that progenitor cells are vulnerable at any point before fully integrating. But if it's more like signalling them to start the next stage in their development instead of dying, then maybe a single large dose after running would be the better approach.
Edited by AuralAnomaly, 08 August 2013 - 09:58 AM.
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megatron's Photo megatron 08 Aug 2013

Woooot!!! :|o I can't believe it's finally here!

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Today, I will take a test dose like ScienceGuy suggested, then start the real trial tomorrow.
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empedocles's Photo empedocles 08 Aug 2013

Very nice packaging ;) , L-arginine one of my favourite supplements.
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xks201's Photo xks201 08 Aug 2013

Megatrone let us know your initial reaction to the supplement for whatever it is worth. lol
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therein's Photo therein 08 Aug 2013

Where do you live Megatrone?
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