defence is useful and a basis for survival. But when you are strong enough the world is great.
I love life and the world. But I can never make myself strong enough to survive a 230 grain .45acp jhp to the cns. Luckily we can make kevlar strong enough though.
My point is, the OP has a point. Survival is something to ponder, the world is dangerous. Always has been, my money is on it always will be.
Bron I agree. The infinite space there must be challenges and attacks beyond what human imagination dreams. Cosmic forces are huge. They rip galaxies apart and bubble universes of infinite membranes (M Theory)
We have to plan against them or revert to powerless atoms. It may be we are doomed to wreck and smash on the rocks of eternity, but I want to give longevity my best shot.
We'll have a relatively greater chance by life extension and upgrading to higher intelligence than sitting here dying waiting for the inevitable meteor hit or super volcano.
I agree, outerspace is the place to be if you wish to remain immortal. I also agree that sped-up evolution or transhumanism/hybrid biological-synthetic (ie, borg) beyond our current extremely limited human bodies/brains is necessary too, I dont want to be doing highly complex mathematical calculations for the next entry/exit trajectory or orbit trajectory in my head... that would take some time.
If the end of this system of galaxies is for every single rock and every single atom to interact with another atom, or if it is that all things will forever expand beyond the reaches of even the fastest ships, out of reach of one another, then we as immortal beings have the need for extremely complex and highly powerful computer systems, jacked directly into our minds, and for the obligation to help lesser species along (thats up to you to decide wether the prime directive applies) and at the end of time we also have the obligation to start the big bang again, at the very end of our existence. We may end up finding out that inorder for the big bang to start again we will have to sacrifice our lives in doing so. Certianly a HUGE sacrifice.
Quite a lot of us immortals will not survive till the end of time, for whatever reasons, accidents/murder/suicide/disease/boredom, so I am saying it now that being an immortal is an IMMENSE undertaking, it takes a very perfect mind to survive a mere 120 years, let alone an infinite number of years. And for those beings I feel sympathy for them for what they have contributed and pride for what they have/will accomplish. But we may also end up creating immortalists who wish to rule and enslave the world and enslave everybody.
A highly intelligent and complex system of backups for both the organic and inorganic are necessary aswell for the safety of future adventures. Also knowledge of those systems and how to repair/rebuild them from SCRATCH, ie, replication from individual atoms, would be apsolutley necessary. Who knows when we will ever see another civilization again even if we invent faster than light travel it will still take us many hundreds/thousands of years to find one that even comes close to repairing a system that would be so complex as to support an enhanced human being.
Waiting for a meteor to hit us on the noggin here on space ship earth is a minor concern when you think about everything else which needs to be accomplished.
I personally have concentrated on being the best individual human being that I can be, the most kind, compassionate, defensive, logical. so that when my mind is connected to a computer, enhanced, I do not then lose my humanity.
It may very well be that we will not be able to reach escape velocity for our current bodies in this century/next century, it may very well be that we will have to ring up Alcor and cryogenically freeze ourselves inorder for the future to finally accomplish immortality.
Thats how I see things as they are right now, I DO NOT see the current system/society as miraculous as it seems to be to us living in the "now" right now to be. To me the future isnt even brighter than it was 10 years ago, because MOST people on this planet seem to be content with polluting/destroying it and just consuming/abusing their bodies until the day that they die.
I personally think that polyamory is the answer to an infinite lifespan, if we are emotionally tied towards others, both physically and mentally, and even on the neurological level, then we can pool resources and keep each other in perfect harmony, in perfect synchronicity. A humane and emotional borg collective is in my future I think.
That to me is the ONLY way that I would prevent from becoming bored within even just a mere 100 years. Let alone even considering a thousand or a million years of existence.
Boredom in and of itself can be staved off from repeating past experiences in your mind, it doesnt matter what it is as long as it keeps you entertained. that has managed to get me another 5-10 years of staving off boredom.
But the one thing which most people even today with wives and families and sucessful careers keep on screaming to the top of their lungs is. that they are hopelessly and endlessly LONELY.
And we live in an infinite abyss with stars and planets floating in circles around them.... Not a very welcoming place now is it? That means that us human beings, us, and this planet, are all that we have and all that we will ever have until the time comes that we discover alien life.
The number of enemies that the immortalist faces are insurmountable, but the big ones in my opinion are:
#1 Loneliness/disease: cancer, diabetes, heart failure, depression, stroke, tumors.
#2 Boredom
#3 Depression/suicide/Accidents due to falls/car crashes.
#4 Limited brain memory capacity (I've already reached mine.)
#5 Current Consumerist society hellbent on destroying everything in their path for shiney new things.
#6 Other hostile human beings hellbent on destroying our lives (torture/torment/bullying/murder)
#7 Government that refuses to change, refuses to acknowledge our existence and our cause as a good one.
#8 Famine and poverty.
#9 A lack of personal training in the art of survivalism and the lack of constant personal preperation and training of yourself to survive as many scenarios as possible.
#10 Not taking suitably safe transportation, For example:
#10.1 preventative measures to avoid risk. Eg. riding a motorbike instead of driving a car, deliberatley driving in rush hour for minor reasons, owning and operating a car at all, owning a car is a HUGE RISK!
#11 Even having bad oral hygiene can end up doing us in, and you may not even notice it until its too late.
With so many of these risks associated with living in society Its NO WONDER that many older people prefer to remain indoors.
The fact remains, biological lifeforms are EXTREMELY FRAGILE! Especially in todays society of private transportation for all.
Edited by Layberinthius, 08 November 2013 - 01:52 PM.
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