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All calories are not equal - my weight chart

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#1 DR01D

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:28 PM


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I weigh myself every morning and put it in a spreadsheet. I eat the same breakfast and lunch every day.

During the first half of the chart I ate a sandwich that was approximately 455 calories. It consisted of 2 pieces of bread, miracle whip, mustard, 1 piece of cheese and 6 pieces of salame.

Although I loved that sandwich I decided it was time to further reduce my intake of processed foods.

Around day 120 I replaced that with a chicken bowl (153 calories), trail mix (200 calories) and 25 pistachio kernels (84 calories). That's a total of 437 calories. Later I replaced my chicken bowl lunch with a black bean and wild rice bowl that was approximately 450 calories.

Although my total caloric intake remained approximately the same throughout the chart I began to slowly lose weight after I eliminated the processed food sandwich. So for what it's worth it's been my experience that processed foods probably do convert into fat faster than more natural foods.

That's not a new observation but I thought someone might enjoy looking at some data from the front line. 8-)

Edited by DR01D, 14 April 2013 - 03:37 PM.


#2 YOLF

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 06:06 PM

This is certainly interesting. I'm curious though, which parts of the sandwich are processed?

Bread - flour and yeasts

Miracle Whip - Yes

Mustard - some additives?

Cheese - what kind?

Salame - intestines stuffed with ground meat leftovers and spices

Everything is processed?

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#3 DR01D

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 07:11 PM

I usually ate swiss cheese from Costco. My wife bought a pack and I'd eat one piece in my sandwich each day. The meat was from Costo too. The bread was whole grain with lots of fiber.

But yeah I think the entire sandwich was composed of processed foods. It tasted great. :laugh:

Today I eat a bean and rice bowl, one apple, a pile of raw vegetables and one piece of Dove dark chocolate for desert. The piece of dark chocolate is the only processed food left.

My breakfast is the same very day. 1 plain scrambled egg, an assortment of raw nuts, 1 green apple, 1 banana and once again 1 piece of Dove dark chocolate. I eat one with every meal. It's my desert.

Edited by DR01D, 14 April 2013 - 07:13 PM.


#4 DR01D

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 07:18 PM

If I had to compare my diet to popular diets it's probably closest to a Mediterranean diet but low calorie.

Lots of nuts, vegetables, fruit, beans, rice, etc. My breakfast and lunch are consistent but my dinners are different every day. My kids wouldn't tolerate the same dinner every night. :-D Because my dinners are kid friendly (I have a 9 and 11 year old) they include junk that I otherwise wouldn't eat. But that keeps everybody happy after a day at school.

I get a significant portion of my protein during dinner. I try to eat fish when I can.

Edited by DR01D, 14 April 2013 - 07:23 PM.


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Posted 14 April 2013 - 11:28 PM

If you wouldn't eat it, you shouldn't be feeding it to your kids. Kid healthy is kid friendly. Figure out 7 meals and eat each one a different day.

Edited by cryonicsculture, 14 April 2013 - 11:29 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2013 - 01:48 AM

If you wouldn't eat it, you shouldn't be feeding it to your kids. Kid healthy is kid friendly. Figure out 7 meals and eat each one a different day.


I can't argue with you because you're right. However I think my kids would have no problem stating their case. :laugh:

To be fair they eat much better than most people. Both of my sons are thin and healthy. But from time to time I do let them eat pizza and hot dogs and the kinds of foods that kids like. We avoid the worst foods like fried chicken and junk food snacks. They don't get soda or that kind of blech.

Their snacks are nuts and fruit and things that kids will eat without too much trouble.

But they aren't as "hardcore" as their parents.

Edited by DR01D, 15 April 2013 - 02:01 AM.


#7 YOLF

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 02:24 AM

That's not bad, kids, esp boys need their carbs from stuff like pizza. As long as they're thin they're probably healthy enough.
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#8 theconomist

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:19 PM

That's not bad, kids, esp boys need their carbs from stuff like pizza. As long as they're thin they're probably healthy enough.


No, matter how young or thin you are eating a commercial pizza is never ''okay''.

white flour, processed cheese... trans fat...

Not saying it'll kill you but even if the kids are young we should be promoting healthy diets.
This is the same mentality that athletes use to eat like pigs and have an average lifespan of 67.

Edited by theconomist, 15 April 2013 - 08:21 PM.

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#9 YOLF

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 06:25 AM

This is true too...

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 10:59 PM

Hey I cant post my diet for review, it would be awesome if someone can review my diet. My goal is weight management, heart health, and mental well-being.

I am at 159, with about 17% BF. I go running once in awhile, for about 2 to 3 miles. I drink at least 2.1 liters of water a day. My lifestyle is pretty sedentary, but I do feel that I eat a decent diet. However, I want it to be the best.

Typical day:
1) Ezekiel bread (2 slices), drenched in a small amount of olive oil
2) 2 to 3 eggs, cooked in olive oil
3) 1 can of sardines
4) Apple, and usually a good amount of broccli, and other mixed fruits throughout the day.
5) Grass-fed beef 15% fat, sometimes I eat half a pound.
6) Pasta with low sugar pasta sauce
7) less than a cup of raw oats, with raisins.
8) I also drink 5-6 cups of coffee a day, ( Straight black, no sugar) this may not be the best thing for me, however it is safer than anti-depressants and it helps increase my mood.

I also take omega 3's, but this is pretty much all I eat. I try to stay about from any condiments.

Opinions are highly welcomed.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:24 AM

Hey I cant post my diet for review, it would be awesome if someone can review my diet. My goal is weight management, heart health, and mental well-being.

I am at 159, with about 17% BF. I go running once in awhile, for about 2 to 3 miles. I drink at least 2.1 liters of water a day. My lifestyle is pretty sedentary, but I do feel that I eat a decent diet. However, I want it to be the best.

Typical day:
1) Ezekiel bread (2 slices), drenched in a small amount of olive oil
2) 2 to 3 eggs, cooked in olive oil
3) 1 can of sardines
4) Apple, and usually a good amount of broccli, and other mixed fruits throughout the day.
5) Grass-fed beef 15% fat, sometimes I eat half a pound.
6) Pasta with low sugar pasta sauce
7) less than a cup of raw oats, with raisins.
8) I also drink 5-6 cups of coffee a day, ( Straight black, no sugar) this may not be the best thing for me, however it is safer than anti-depressants and it helps increase my mood.

I also take omega 3's, but this is pretty much all I eat. I try to stay about from any condiments.

Opinions are highly welcomed.

You said you wanted it to be the best so I'll judge it very strictly.
-1 this is fine except the lower the carbs in your diet the better unless the food provides beneficial things that have been well studied (glucose feeding cancer cells, raising bg ...) checkout the cancer fasting ketosis thread.
-2 you're cooking wthe oil which isn't optimal-ages. Eggs have been linked to many different issues including heart disease and cancer; there is a whole topic about eggs on here.
-3 fine except if the can has BPA in which case the jury is still out but if you're really following a "best diet" mentality you'd avoid it; it's easier to avoid controversial things than to include them.
-4 broccoli is king, apple and fruits aren't. Many of us limit our fruit consumption due to the high sugar content and minimal benefits not provided by vegetables. If you want something sweet I recomend pumpkins with a dash of cinnamon. Berries are an exception for some people and if you'd like to eat apples then eat the skin only, the rest is just sugar. Also; avocadoes are your friends.
-5 some will say fine, most will agree even grass fed beef is to be removed from your diet (gi cancers strong correlation, heart disease risk...) half a pound is never okay.
-6 pasta sauce and pasta; no processed foods and definitely no pasta it's a low nutrition food that's dense in calories and then you'll be faced with the whole grains debate, again best to avoid.
-7 oats are fine, raisins aren't high sugar low nutrition compared to other fruits, dry raisins should be considered candy
-8 you seem to already know what could be wrong with this.

This is your answer if you really want the BEST diet then it's a mostly raw vegan diet with limited fruit consumption unless you have cancer the a keto diet might be a better option(depending on the cancer). Now obviously it's hard to live like this so here are my recs; ditch the processed food, lower the meat, lower the eggs, switch from fruits to veggies. Monitor your methionine levels(cron o meter is your friend) try not to get too much we don't understand it yet but it is important, cooper to zinc ratio, omega 3 to 6 ratio, make sure you get at least 200% of rdi of vitamins each day from food ideally.
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#12 DePaw

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:04 PM

I agree that all calories are not equal. I have been weight stable on a diet of ~1650-1700 calories a day at ~70-90g protein, ~100-120g carbs, ~100-120g fat. I have now switched to 1650-1700 calories at 70-90g protein, 20-30g carbs, 130-150g fat and have lost two pounds in a week. We'll see how it continues over time, but I'm guessing I will continue to lose weight eating low carb even though I wasn't eating that many carbohydrates (compared to SAD) before and despite it being exactly the same number of calories.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:08 AM

Its not like you cannot optimize pizza by doing it yourself - will never be a health food :-). Tastes better, too.
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#14 European

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:55 PM

Have you looked at the respectives GI? It seems normal to me that foods rich en simple carbohydrates are more easily transformed in fat.
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