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[NootropicEU]

Hello,

I am looking for a the best Multi Vitamin. I have no time to take hundreds of different tablets daily. Is Vimmortal available? Any alternatives?

[Mind]

We have a new formula for Vimmortal, but we need a manufacturer to produce a small run for LongeCity members (and others). The previous manufacturer bowed out because there was not enough profit. Do you know anyone or have any connections?

[dz93]

You could try beyond tangy tangerine. Search around for reviews on the web to see if its right for you.

[NootropicEU]

We have a new formula for Vimmortal, but we need a manufacturer to produce a small run for LongeCity members (and others). The previous manufacturer bowed out because there was not enough profit. Do you know anyone or have any connections?

That's a shame. Is the formula public? Can I see it?

I have got a friend who manufactures bodybuilding supplements in Europe. I will ask if he is interested. Who was the previous manufacturer? Anthony Loera?

You could try beyond tangy tangerine. Search around for reviews on the web to see if its right for you.

It looks good. What's your experience with tangy tangerine?

Edited by NootropicEU, 11 June 2013 - 12:07 AM.

[dz93]

I've had amazing results from it. Mainly in overall energy. There was a lot of smaller benefits too but those will vary from person to person since not everyone is deficient in the same nutrient. Beyond tangy tangerine is supposed to have all 90 vitamins nutrients and minerals in it.

[Mind]

We have a new formula for Vimmortal, but we need a manufacturer to produce a small run for LongeCity members (and others). The previous manufacturer bowed out because there was not enough profit. Do you know anyone or have any connections?

That's a shame. Is the formula public? Can I see it?

I have got a friend who manufactures bodybuilding supplements in Europe. I will ask if he is interested. Who was the previous manufacturer? Anthony Loera?

You could try beyond tangy tangerine. Search around for reviews on the web to see if its right for you.

It looks good. What's your experience with tangy tangerine?

It is a pretty simple formula. Members wanted a low dose - high quality multi. Here is the main forum where Caliban has posted some content about our experiences with Vimmortal thus far and potential for the future: http://www.longecity.../365-vimmortal/

Here is the member discussion/voting for Vimmortal 2.0: http://www.longecity...4-vimmortal-20/

[Mind]

The final touches on the formula are in the Expert Panel forum, but there is a password issue right now. I will try to resolve it and post more info here.

[Bonee]

Currently I take one half of LEFs two per day
http://www.lef.org/V...ay-Tablets.html
I think it is pretty good for the price and if you take a low dose then you are good for a long time with one packet.

[Mind]

Below is a tabulation of how the member voting went.

B1 100% One comment to have in the the sulbutiamine form.

B2 100% No comments

B3 100% No comments

B5 100% One comment noting potential life extension benefits of B5

B9 100% One comment that it should be in the form of l-methylfolate. Another comment pointing out the very embarrassing typo on version 1.0. Label needs to be perfect for 2.0.

B12 100% One comment wondering if we would be using cyanocobalmin or hydroxycobalmin

Boron 100% No comments

Vitamin K 100% High level of support for K, but a lot of discussion on the ratios of K1, K2, mk-4, mk-7, which is too far out of my knowledge-base to add a summary here.

Molybdenum 100% No comments

Chromium 100% One comment about changing the form of chromium.

Mixed Tocotrienols 95% One vote against. Some discussion about the form which was too detailed to summarize here.

Selenium 94% One vote against but no rationale given.

Vitamin E 93% Only one vote against, but a lot of discussion about what form – which was too detailed to summarize here.

Vitamin C 92% Two votes against. One comment that it takes up too much space. Comments for keeping the amount low around 100 or 150 mg, which is (oddly) higher than version 1.0. One suggestion to add flavonoids along with C.

B6 92% One vote against. One comment wondering about pyritinol form. One comment suggesting to keep all the Bs in the proper ratio.

Silicon 90% One vote against. One commenter would rather get silicon from “horsetail”.

Biotin 90% One vote against but no rationale given.

Zinc 90% Two votes against but no rationale given. Suggested to keep zinc:copper ratio 10:1

Magnesium 87% One comment to drop it from the formulation. Most of the concerns raised were related to how much space magnesium takes up and how much it adds to the price. Otherwise, most agreed that it should be in version 2.0

Iodine 85% One comment to keep the dose “very low”. Most comments suggested to keep it the same as version 1.0 or close to RDA

Vitamin A 82% Main objection to Vitamin A is potential cancer risk

Lycopene 80% Main objection to Lycopene is potential cancer risk.
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Those with a bit less support but still positive

Vitamin D 79% Most opinions and comments were to leave it in the general range (or a little below) of version 1.0. One comment to leave it out. One to raise it to 2,000IU or even 5000IU.

Lithium 73% Votes against Lithium were based exclusively on sensitivity issues. One comment suggested switching to Li-carbonate.
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Voted down, 50% or less support

Lutein 50% Votes against were due to potential cancer risk from Lutein supplementation. One suggestion to keep it ,but reduce the amount.

Choline 36% A couple comments to reduce the amount and change the form, but most people do not want it in version 2.0


Copper 36% Voted down but a couple of suggestions to keep it in a smaller amount for version 2.0, and in a 1:10 ratio to zinc.

[MrJBSmith]

If I was forced to take a multi, it would be AOR Ortho.

[solarfingers]

We have a new formula for Vimmortal, but we need a manufacturer to produce a small run for LongeCity members (and others). The previous manufacturer bowed out because there was not enough profit. Do you know anyone or have any connections?

Mind,

There is a company which private labels and perform distribution as their main business. They will fulfill a private formulation. If we could get a group buy in we might be able to get the supply chain started. We should set it up as monthly subscription to ensure the product's longevity. Since Longecity is non-profit would it be possible for them to back the product and rely on the vendor supply chain to do the work? We could keep the cost down if it was being performed by a non-profit. I would be willing to call the vendor to get any information needed to get the process moving.

Private Label Nutraceuticals


Any thoughts?