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MasterHerb's Photo MasterHerb 20 Aug 2013

They have coluracetam in stock! http://www.ceretropi...ngual-solution/
Edited by MasterHerb, 20 August 2013 - 03:36 AM.
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Isochroma's Photo Isochroma 20 Aug 2013

As the creator and maintainer of the Racetam Prices list, thanks for posting and please also PM me directly if/when you find sellers like these so I can add their sales to the list.
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Isochroma's Photo Isochroma 20 Aug 2013

MasterHerb: Since you introduced Ceretropic I assume you run the business.

So why won't you ship to Canada?

Coluracetam is unregulated here. It can be imported for personal use.

As for others, I recommend you stay away from Ceretropic.

Wait until a decent, affordable powder or pill supplier appears.

Coluracetam is not stable in solution and Ceretropic's price is a ripoff.

It seems that even though they claim to ship to most of North America,

1. THEY PROVIDE NO LIST OF COUNTRIES SHIPPED TO OR NOT SHIPPED TO.
2. YOU FIND OUT AT CHECKOUT THAT YOUR COUNTRY IS NOT SHIPPABLE.
3. THERE IS NO CONTACT EMAIL OR FORM ON THE SITE TO RESOLVE PROBLEMS

4. THE PRODUCT IS IN SOME BIZARRE DOSING FORM

These are all bad signs.

Stay away.
Edited by Isochroma-Reborn, 20 August 2013 - 04:25 AM.
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Isochroma's Photo Isochroma 20 Aug 2013

Further, you created a new thread instead of posting to the Coluracetam thread.

It's obvious you're a seller.
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MasterHerb's Photo MasterHerb 20 Aug 2013

MasterHerb: Since you introduced Ceretropic I assume you run the business.

So why won't you ship to Canada?

Coluracetam is unregulated here. It can be imported for personal use.

As for others, I recommend you stay away from Ceretropic.

Wait until a decent, affordable powder or pill supplier appears.

Coluracetam is not stable in solution and Ceretropic's price is a ripoff.

It seems that even though they claim to ship to most of North America,

1. THEY PROVIDE NO LIST OF COUNTRIES SHIPPED TO OR NOT SHIPPED TO.
2. YOU FIND OUT AT CHECKOUT THAT YOUR COUNTRY IS NOT SHIPPABLE.
3. THERE IS NO CONTACT EMAIL OR FORM ON THE SITE TO RESOLVE PROBLEMS

These are all bad signs.

Stay away.


I am not affiliated with them at all....just wanted to give a heads up.
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Isochroma's Photo Isochroma 20 Aug 2013

Oh really?

I search for that product every day on Google but somehow you were more competent than my scanning?

GOOGLE SEARCH as of now shows that CERETROPIC isn't even listed when searched on Coluracetam. Google crawls sites very quickly when new info is put up - generally it's on the index within 24 hours.

So you're telling me that you found their site and the product less than 24 hours after they put it up for sale when it was not showing in any Google search?

Do you take me for stupid?
Edited by Isochroma-Reborn, 20 August 2013 - 04:33 AM.
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MasterHerb's Photo MasterHerb 20 Aug 2013

Oh really?

I search for that product every day on Google but somehow you were more competent than my scanning?

GOOGLE SEARCH as of now shows that CERETROPIC isn't even listed when searched on Coluracetam.

YOU COULD NOT HAVE FOUND THE SITE BY GOOGLE SEARCH.

Do you take me for stupid?


Wow dude stop making assumptions I saw it on reddit.......
http://www.reddit.co...wceretropiccom/
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Isochroma's Photo Isochroma 20 Aug 2013

You mean you posted it on Reddit first.
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MasterHerb's Photo MasterHerb 20 Aug 2013

You mean you posted it on Reddit first.


Lol you have got to be kidding me....also apparently you have problems reading that thread cause I clearly made a post about it there.
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formergenius's Photo formergenius 20 Aug 2013

I tried ordering some when they first launched the site (which I found by searching google like a freaking hawk every day), but it turned out they'd accidentally launched the site prematurely. So I got a refund seeing as they wouldn't ship to the Netherlands and weren't all set-up yet. I've got nothing negative to report about my interactions with Ceretropic, I just wish they'd ship internationally, haha! This must've been a few weeks back.. Don't feel like digging up the e-mails. Possibly a month, but not more than 2 I think.

Why would Coluracetam be unstable when in solution?
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Guacamolium's Photo Guacamolium 20 Aug 2013

MasterHerb: Since you introduced Ceretropic I assume you run the business.

So why won't you ship to Canada?

Coluracetam is unregulated here. It can be imported for personal use.

As for others, I recommend you stay away from Ceretropic.

Wait until a decent, affordable powder or pill supplier appears.

Coluracetam is not stable in solution and Ceretropic's price is a ripoff.

It seems that even though they claim to ship to most of North America,

1. THEY PROVIDE NO LIST OF COUNTRIES SHIPPED TO OR NOT SHIPPED TO.
2. YOU FIND OUT AT CHECKOUT THAT YOUR COUNTRY IS NOT SHIPPABLE.
3. THERE IS NO CONTACT EMAIL OR FORM ON THE SITE TO RESOLVE PROBLEMS

4. THE PRODUCT IS IN SOME BIZARRE DOSING FORM

These are all bad signs.

Hello Isochromo-reborn,

Stay away.


Hello Isochromo-reborn,

My name is Jason and I'm the founding co-owner of Ceretropic. The other co-owner is Paul, both of us can also can be reached at jason@ceretropic.com or paul@ceretropic.com for answers to any questions or concerns you have. Paul handles international shipping (or the current lack thereof); it is certainly frustrating for us but we're working on the sitation and will let everybody know when we can ship internationally.

I believe we've fixed the checkout problem, as another Reddit user pointed out to us. Our products in this category are simply sublingual, most supsended in Propylene glycol and glycerin. If it contains a secondary amide group, we make sure no water enters the solution as hydrolysis would occur and cleave the amide bond through hydrolysis. This precaution is handled already. Also, remember that our coluracetam bottles are limited stock and are 20mg per half dropper, making 60 total doses for that price. I personally didn't feel much greater benefit on 80mg per dose and neither did Paul or Thomas. I was thinking of moving up to 25mg per half dropper for the next batch though.

We are also working with Colymeric Analytics to have an NMR done on Coluracetam so we can have a COA for it eventually. NMR's aren't cheap and once we have it done, every nootropic vendor can get a reliable COA done on Coluracetam.

Also, I don't know Masterherb personally or on this forum, sounds like he was just trying to let you guys know Coluracetam was in (albeit briefly until China can reup us.)

- Jason
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Guacamolium's Photo Guacamolium 20 Aug 2013

I tried ordering some when they first launched the site (which I found by searching google like a freaking hawk every day), but it turned out they'd accidentally launched the site prematurely. So I got a refund seeing as they wouldn't ship to the Netherlands and weren't all set-up yet. I've got nothing negative to report about my interactions with Ceretropic, I just wish they'd ship internationally, haha! This must've been a few weeks back.. Don't feel like digging up the e-mails. Possibly a month, but not more than 2 I think.

Why would Coluracetam be unstable when in solution?


It was our fault. Our merchant who was going to provide MCV/Discover, etc. for whatever reason stated that we need at least one transaction before they could approve us, so, we made one up (thus opening the website to the public) and Paul forgot to rehide the webpage when he was done.

Needless to say, he had it set on free international shipping and to add insult to injury, the merchant service saw that we were selling nootropics and cancelled their contract with us. Paul is taking care of merchant services still and we work on the site daily. Paul is more computer savvy and I'm very apt at raw material sourcing.

We can also be reached on reddit: I'm /u/Guacamolium, and Paul is /u/Mryouaresodumb
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formergenius's Photo formergenius 20 Aug 2013

^ Thanks for clearing that up Jason. Hope things go smoothly for you guys from now on :)
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stevenecom's Photo stevenecom 20 Aug 2013

Are you serious, Isochroma?
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Guacamolium's Photo Guacamolium 21 Aug 2013

Reading over this thread a second time gave me a different perspective:

Iso-chroma Reborn: you had/have every right to be skeptical of us. We got a batch of Colu in and I kept it in a cool, dry, moisture-free place since June, while we figured out how and when to launch Ceretropic. In the meantime, Colu sources for the most part dried-out completely (something I hadn't anticipated at all due to the demand), leaving many to question why Colu wasn't here yet and if businesses that offered it were legit. We simply held on and preserved our Colu while we developed our business model, and with my dozens of conversations with Paul it has grown into a beautiful thing.

So the skepticism makes sense - I'm typically skeptical and believe it's a healthy function, but this was an odd case of too many factors coming into play that obscured the skepticism. We're legit, and both Paul and myself are vehemently striving towards a safer, better nootropic market. Our business model donates to neurologically related disease charities, puts profit back into bringing better ligands to the commonwealth, and helps our competitors with COA's - even though they're in competition with us. What serves the greater good is better than a quick buck.

- Jason
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Betterself's Photo Betterself 23 Aug 2013

I orderd a bottle of coluracetam. Will I recieve a tracking number? Order #143 I believe.
Thanks
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Betterself's Photo Betterself 23 Aug 2013

I received my coluracetam this morning and took a 5mg test dose.
Looks like I made a mistake and took a 10mg test dose with 1/4 dropper.
No problems though a half hour later.
Edited by Betterself, 23 August 2013 - 03:09 PM.
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Guacamolium's Photo Guacamolium 27 Aug 2013

I received my coluracetam this morning and took a 5mg test dose.
Looks like I made a mistake and took a 10mg test dose with 1/4 dropper.
No problems though a half hour later.


Can you go into more details at this point?
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Betterself's Photo Betterself 27 Aug 2013

At first I thought a full dropper = 20mg. It turns out that 1/2 dropper is = 20mg
I took 1/4 dropper thinking it was only 5mg. It turns out what I like is 10mg BID
I am stacking it with piracetam 800mg TID along with inositol and L-thianine and a host of other supplements.
So far so good.
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ZombieGuy's Photo ZombieGuy 04 Sep 2013

Anyone else recieve their orders?
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peterf's Photo peterf 10 Sep 2013

Anyone else recieve their orders?



why they didn't ship yours?
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Guacamolium's Photo Guacamolium 11 Sep 2013

Anyone else recieve their orders?

Hi ZombieGuy,


Please PM me your order information, name/location, or order # and I'll look into your order status for you and get back to you.


Best regards,


Jason Kaufman

Ceretropic.com

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ZombieGuy's Photo ZombieGuy 12 Sep 2013

Anyone else recieve their orders?



why they didn't ship yours?

Anyone else recieve their orders?

Hi ZombieGuy,


Please PM me your order information, name/location, or order # and I'll look into your order status for you and get back to you.


Best regards,


Jason Kaufman

Ceretropic.com


No I haven't ordered. I just haven't seen many reviews yet. I'm basically wondering why more people haven't told us about their experiences since the launch.
Edited by ZombieGuy, 12 September 2013 - 01:41 AM.
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Guacamolium's Photo Guacamolium 12 Sep 2013

We welcome feedback and keep fine-tuning our products; there are a few in fact that are still in testing, which can be arduous sometimes.

I've personally seen more feedback on reddit.com/nootropics for us.

- Jason
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bootdoc's Photo bootdoc 18 May 2014

Purchased selank, cjc-1295, ipamorelin from them.

 

Research has gone according to what is expected from the literature.

 

Shipping is quick.  Peptide vials have a higher quality feel than some other vendors.

 

Definitely a reliable vendor.  One note, the labels, when condensation occurs on the research peptide bottles, do smudge.  So try your best to avoid condensation.

I look forward to continuing research with them in the future.

 


Edited by bootdoc, 18 May 2014 - 03:20 PM.
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AlSameesh's Photo AlSameesh 06 Jul 2014

Having trouble with these guys. Placed an order a week ago and have gotten no communication from them, I've sent emails to three different email addresses and still nothing.. very sluggish service.

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Ultravioletbllc's Photo Ultravioletbllc 07 Jul 2014

Up I've been interested but I am for some reason not fully trustworthy of the product they supply that I Need desperately In a super low dose ( with ease!) memantine cycle
But I need too hear more , and not about no contact with paying customers
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Ceretropic's Photo Ceretropic 07 Jul 2014

AlSameesh, sorry for the delay in response, but this is 4th of July weekend. You sent your emails Saturday morning, and we replied to them Sunday morning. You need to give us reasonable amount of time to respond; especially over holiday weekends.

 

Ultravioletbllc, what more do you want to know? Also, what dosages are you looking to use?

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kookoo's Photo kookoo 07 Jul 2014

keep us updated alshameesh

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Ultravioletbllc's Photo Ultravioletbllc 07 Jul 2014

From around 1-2 mg daily eventually once I reach what I feel is my personal timeframe for induction into true chronic administration benefits and the gradual decay and then washing away of Side effects of nmda inhibition at two weeks I'd like to drop it too 1mg on day one 3mg every third day I only dose this way because I can't afford too take a preferential starting dose ( I'm the odd guy who would rather Kill the sides right off and start at 15 mgs daily titrating downward too ten mg daily over two weeks and then I've gone as low as 2.5mg eod , at the time I had nowhere near as much intellectual definition of the molecule and it's full pharmacology )

And your product would be the most convenient for a variety of reasons
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