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[Babychris]

Hello I have quite a technical and in some aspect quite a weird question.
That's seem quite a manic vision of myself but in fact this is not at all, let me explain. I suffer from a very complex form of anxiety and depression, in relation with what I'm. More important I feel that I'm very different than other people. This feeling is not just delusional because all my friend, from the pure atheist to the salafist (lol) passing by my acupunturist say that I have a very powerfull "energy" "a snake energy". That is absolutely not related with my personnality. My mother say that I'm unique in a very different manner than other people. And one time I visited a friend in the most known psychiatric Hospital in france and an old Bi-polar guy told me that I was a Saint and that I'll be a brilliant Doctor (I'm studiying that) and other guys begun to conglomerate behind me shouting that I was the new God. That was scary
I'm profoundly kind but I suffer from a constant irritibality and anxiousness which make me feel that I don't deserve all this attention.

Anyway my former question was about the impact of supplements particularly the racetams on the deep of our soul. I mean when I take racetams or other supplements (ashwagandha for exemple) I feel that I loose this particular energy but other say that nothing has change. So that's so emabarassing, it makes me feel bad! I need something that let my memory come back (I can't pass n=5 at Dual-n-back since my depression has become constant instead of oscillating between with mania) so you understand that my memory is very poor and my verbal fluency has decreased in a unbelievable way.

Actually ashwagandha is helping me with anxiety. I'm waiting to catch some coluracetam and PRL8-53 but I'm affraid because Pramiracetam was really destroyous for me I remember walking facing down the floor in the street. Piracetam was pure irritability and depression. Oxiracetam and aniracetam were not a success too. In regards with other supplements most of them give me that bad feeling and that includes even Fish oil.

[HoldingTheFaith]

Hmmmm where are you from? I invisioned you surrounded by heaps of hindus for some reason. I am also inherently different from others, if this accounts for something metaphysical or purely physical (a neuroquimic defect) I don´t know, but seeking the truth can be the result of a neuroquimic imbalance? Rationally I would say yes.

Supplements have no effect on the depth of your soul lol. Maybe there is no substance that can affect the soul, although possibly hard drug consumption or, say, eating people, could do something to it. Moreover, does the soul have depth? o_O Maybe when you give money to a beggar or save a kitten your soul expands!

Edited by HoldingTheFaith, 27 January 2014 - 12:59 PM.

[scitris]

This is one of the most weird discussions on this board, but i read smth about you were talking, maybe its something for you. Did you heard of kundlini?

Kundalini (Sanskrit kuṇḍalinī, कुण्डलिनी, pronunciation (help·info)) stems from yogic philosophy as a form of feminine shakti or "corporeal energy".[1] Kundalini is described within Eastern religious, or spiritual, tradition as an indwelling spiritual energy that can be awakened in order to purify the subtle system and ultimately to bestow the state of Yoga, or Divine Union, upon the 'seeker' of truth ".[2][3] The Yoga Upanishads describe Kundalini as lying "coiled" at the base of the spine, represented as either a goddess or sleeping serpent waiting to be awakened. In modern commentaries, Kundalini has been called an unconscious, instinctive or libidinal force.[1][4][5]

The phrase serpent power was coined by Sir John Woodroffe, who published his translation of two 16th-century treatises on laya yoga (Kundalini yoga) in 1919 under this title.

Some academics have coined the term "Kundalini syndrome" to refer to physical or psychological problems arising from experiences traditionally associated with Kundalini awakening.[13]

Kundalini can be awakened by shaktipat—spiritual transmission by a Guru or teacher—or by spiritual practices such as yoga or meditation. Sometimes Kundalini reportedly awakens spontaneously as the result of physical or psychological trauma, or even for no apparent reason

But im sceptic about this and even it would be real i dont think it is related to you. Its something that came to my mind when i read your post. "snake" "energy" "physical, pychological alterations, weird"

[Babychris]

I'm an oriental guy from the middle-east so my point of view is in no way related with any traditionnal vision of soul or life.

by "deep of soul" I was not meaning obviously a physical deepness but more of a liberty of travelling in ourself. For exemple today I've taken some aniracetam, and I'm a bit overfocused, it really inhibits me socially because it makes me feel empty and I find this fundamentally worst than any characterized major depression and I know of what I'm talking about. Sadly this feeling is just exarcebate (i think) by supplements and certainly not the origin of it. I think I have a very unique form of ADD coupled with OCD, but I was smart enough (or not) to make what I am ; and now it's very hard to read into my paradoxal and very very complex personnality. That's just a simplist vision of myself of the day though.

Anyway from a long time I have this feeling that most of my problems are related in any degree with my digestive apparel and I'm absolutely not surprised that, research are creating more and more link between the gut and the brain.

Do anyone know if coluracetam can help with this feeeling of overwhelming focus on nothing and emptyness (I suffer of an kind of obsession with my cognition but that's of course much more complex than that) ? It's a very frustrating and irritabiliting feeling that I cannot anymore exteriorize (I assume that before I had this feeling but I used to become very agressive verbally with my relatives when this happens, I was younger although conscious of what I was doing but totally less aware of my self-conscious.

[TheBatman]

Gut issues, particularly leaky gut syndrome, can and usually does cause issues with the brain. It eventually leads to an impairment in mitochondrial functioning and a general sense of dysphoria. If you're concerned, you can always go on a low glycemic index diet (gluten free/dairy free is a good place to start) and then see how you feel.

If I understand right you are asking about racetams and their effect on the soul. Nobody can answer this question as science hasn't even proved the existence of a soul .

As for your self diagnosing, a psychiatrist would be able to help you sort out issues with your complex paradoxical personality problems.

[Hip]

@Babychris

This "deep soul" that you refer to: are you not just talking about mystical, spiritual personalities and energies? Some individuals naturally have a strong mystical, spiritual energies, and this may be your case. There is huge amount of literature on these mystical, spiritual subjects. You might want to read some books on Zen, which is one of the most profound spiritual traditions.

 

You may also like to try some Zen meditation. There are Zen meditation centers in Paris. Meditation can strengthen, stabilize and mature the mystical type of person. 

 

 

Changing the subject: regarding you anxiety symptoms: I managed to eliminate the very severe generalized anxiety disorder that I had using certain specific supplements. These anti-anxiety supplements are listed in my thread here:

 

Completely eliminated my severe anxiety symptoms with three supplements!

 

The most potent anti-anxiety supplement I found was N-acetyl-glucosamine (NAG), so you might want to try some NAG, and see if it eliminates your anxiousness. 

 

I often suffer from irritability, as a result of my chronic fatigue syndrome (irritability is a common symptom of CFS), and I have found that royal jelly 2000 mg is helpful for this. And the antidepressant drug amisulpride in very low doses (12.5 mg daily) was very effective at countering my irritability, I found.

Edited by Hip, 13 June 2014 - 12:09 AM.

[Babychris]

Thank you very much for your help I will dig into your post and tell you then my opinion!