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[cylon]

How does this look for a multi ? Anything in the wrong amounts? 

 

 

Vitamin A Complex 
  Retinol (Palmitate) 110 mcg
  Beta-carotene 1.8 mg
Vitamin B complex 
  B1 (Thiamine HCI) 9 mg
  B2 (Riboflavin-5-phosphate) 2.5 mg
  B3 (Niacin - from 126 mg inositol hexanicotinate) 115 mg
  B5 (d-Ca Pantothenate) 100 mg
  B6 (Pyridoxal-5-phosphate) 100 mg
  B12 (Methylcobalamin) 647 mcg
  Folic Acid (calcium L-5-MTHF) 800 mcg
  Biotin 300 mcg
  Choline (bitartrate) 500 mg
  Inositol (from inositol, inositol hexanicotinate) 128 mg
Vitamin C (as Magnesium Ascorbate) 120 mg
Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol) 25 mcg
Vitamin E Complex 
  Tocopherols (soy, min. 65% gamma) 100 mg
  Vitamin E (from alpha-tocopherol) 7.1 mg ATE
  Tocotrienols (palm) 10 mg
Menatetrenone (Vitamin K2) 120 mcg
  
Minerals 
Boron (Citrate) 700 mcg
Calcium (Citrate-Malate) 178 mcg
Chromium (Picolinate) 100 mcg
Copper (Citrate) 1.5 mg
Iodine (Potassium Iodide) 150 mcg
Magnesium (Aspartate, Oxide, Ascorbate) 210 mg
Manganese (bisglycinate) 2.3 mg
Molybdenum (Na Molybdate) 45 mcg
Potassium (Chloride) 50 mg
Selenium (Selenomethionine) 55 mcg
Silicon (HVP chelate from soy) 25 mg
Vanadium (Citrate) 18 mcg
Zinc (Citrate) 11 mg
  
Non-Medicinal Ingredients: 
Natural blackberry flavour, antioxidant-rich rice bran 
concentrate, tocopherols, palm oil, medium chain 
triglycerides, soybean oil, ascorbyl palmitate, sodium 
alginate, xanthan gum, gum arabic, microcrystalline 
cellulose, starch, maltodextrin, gelatin, sucrose,   
tricalcium phosphate, dicalcium phosphate, silicon dioxide, 
sorbitan stearate, hydroxypropyl cellulose, lecithin

[Luxflux]

A long, detailed question. I feared I'd not find anything - until I found Google custom search here at Longecity.

 

Here, let me search that for you.

[cylon]

Thanks. Hadn't realized this product has undergone so many revisions:)

 

Unfortunately 99% of those threads relate to a vastly different version of the more recent product listed in my first post.

 

However, still reassuring to know the AOR brand is popular and favored by many people here.

[k4ir0s]

The B doses are smaller than most, good if you're a meat eater.

 

Folic acid is unusually high..

 

 

IMO If you're already eating healthy, you should only be taking a minimal dose (If the recommended dosage is 3 caps, take one).

 

If you're eating a good amount meat, veggies, fruits, nuts every day, you will easily be accomplishing most of your nutritional goals. That's why many people on here recommend you either take a minimal dose, or individually supplement the vitamins and minerals you're lacking in your diet.

 

AOR is good, but like all other multivitamins it will easily cause you to overdose in certain areas.

Edited by k4ir0s, 21 March 2015 - 04:12 AM.

[timar]

AOR is good, but like all other multivitamins it will easily cause you to overdose in certain areas.

 

Define "overdose". The common definition is an overall intake above the UL. Even the the highest dosed multivitamin supplements will usually pose no risk of exceeding the UL. However, some poeple here seem to think that any intake substantially above the RDA would be an "overdose", despite no scientific evidence to suggest so. There are some specific nutrients of concern, for which recent research suggests that the supplemental dose should be limited below the established UL. These nutrients include iron (none for men, RDA for menstruating woman without deficiency), copper (RDA), manganese (RDA), selenium (200 mcg), preformed vitamin A (2500 IU), vitamin E as alpha-tocopherol (100 IU) and vitamin B6 (100 mg).

 

On the other hand, there is no evidence at all to suggest that i.e. 100 mg of B1 or B2 would constitute an "overdose" for anyone.

Edited by timar, 21 March 2015 - 11:56 AM.

[cylon]

Thanks Timar.

Although probably a good product I am a bit concerned about some of the amounts, ie 100mg B6? have decided to use it in only half or third suggested doses when I make smoothies.

I probably get enough trace minerals from a balanced  diet already and  If I'm going to supplement any vitamins on a daily basis, will stick to D3 and a good mixed B.

This one from Swanson seems quite good

http://www.swansonvi...ity-60-veg-caps

Edited by cylon, 21 March 2015 - 01:40 PM.

[k4ir0s]

 

AOR is good, but like all other multivitamins it will easily cause you to overdose in certain areas.

 

Define "overdose". The common definition is an overall intake above the UL. Even the the highest dosed multivitamin supplements will usually pose no risk of exceeding the UL. However, some poeple here seem to think that any intake substantially above the RDA would be an "overdose", despite no scientific evidence to suggest so. There are some specific nutrients of concern, for which recent research suggests that the supplemental dose should be limited below the established UL. These nutrients include iron (none for men, RDA for menstruating woman without deficiency), copper (RDA), manganese (RDA), selenium (200 mcg), preformed vitamin A (2500 IU), vitamin E as alpha-tocopherol (100 IU) and vitamin B6 (100 mg).

 

On the other hand, there is no evidence at all to suggest that i.e. 100 mg of B1 or B2 would constitute an "overdose" for anyone.

 

I wasn't talking about the Bs, I even mentioned in my post that I thought the Bs were low. Also, I meant "megadose", rather than overdose.

 

Multivitamins are completely unnecessary if you're eating healthy. You can see this for yourself by monitoring your daily intake of foods (using sites like cronometer), it's a tedious process, but I think many people would be surprised by how often they're achieving (sometimes exceeding) their daily requirements by simply eating healthy foods.

Edited by k4ir0s, 21 March 2015 - 03:23 PM.

[timar]

Multivitamins are completely unnecessary if you're eating healthy. You can see this for yourself by monitoring your daily intake of foods (using sites like cronometer), it's a tedious process, but I think many people would be surprised by how often they're achieving (sometimes exceeding) their daily requirements by simply eating healthy foods.

 

 

Define "necessary". Define "eating healthy".

 

I agree that a multivitamin is not necessary for someone eating a varied whole-food diet when it comes to maintain good health in the short- and midterm. However, there is good reason and quite a bit of compelling evidence to assume that in the long term, a low/medium dose multivitamin may provide benefits even for those eating a healthy, nutrient-adequate diet. I have written extensively about this issue here.

 

I'm not a fan of meticulously tracking your micronutrient intake with Cronometer. I think people tend to become beguiled by all those impressive numbers and figures. Don't forget that the standard deviations for many food items from the USDA database are enormous. They multiply again by the influence of storage and cooking methods. Calculating with those numbers lets one forget about all the uncertainties and intricacies of reality and evokes a false sense of omniscience and controlability. As long as you are aware that it can only ever provide a very rough estimate, though, it is fine for doing just that.
 

Edited by timar, 21 March 2015 - 04:03 PM.

[The Ripper]

Timar, I know you follow Dr Rhonda Patrick so I was wondering what your opinion is of her latest post about using DNA testing to personalise supplementation. It seems relevant to this discussion here: