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[shadowhawk]

Will you believe him if he does, and why wouldn't you ?

Is it that unusual if you believe that orbs may be god that Old Fool could be too.

He may be testing you and your faith

Don't miss out if he does...

 

What I said is that I know what some but not all orbs are.  Apparently  you foolishly think you do.  However their existence brings us other issues.  Some even think candy bars are evidence for god.  Maybe and we have started to explore whether a candy bar is god or can lead us to God.  As for you you can do nothing but call names and mock so who cares.  Orbs, candy bars...can they can seem so simple to the simple minded yet their very existence can in fact raise fascinating questions.  Where is candy man?
 

Edited by shadowhawk, 16 May 2015 - 07:06 PM.

[shadowhawk]

 

 

 

Question.  Some of these orb like lights are not witnessed through a camera lens is that correct?  There are eye witness accounts?

 

This is correct.
 

 

 

Interesting.  We can't discount it as lens flair in every case.  You think it is the Holy Spirit.  I think the question, why is there something rather than nothing is a question we each have to answer with faith.  That there are orbs at all is the real mind bogeler.  Why?  What does it all mean?  Seen with the atheists eyes of faith that is just an orb but seen with theistic eyes of faith its very existence is evidence for God.  There is a lot more to what we are seeing than just the physical manifestation. 
 

 

 

You can't discount it as a lens flair in every case, but still there are many other phenomenons - sphere shaped lightenings, reflections of planets and the moon, viewing the moon or planets in an unusual places or day times. Atmospheric energy discharges, other still not explored things.

 

I agree.  Some things have short term explanations or partial answers to some questions but there are more issues than may meet the simple minds eye.  Even knowing it is a lens flair in some cases does not solve all the questions or things we can learn from it.

[The Brain]

Candy man Candy man Candy man !!!


God God God !!!


Neither come when you call their names three times



Because they are both human inventions of fantasy

[shadowhawk]

Candy man is MajinBrian who proposed a candy bar as god.  No disrespect intended.  God, God, God does not come to you?  I wonder why.  God does come to me all the time, or I should say He never leaves  me.  You finish with your profession of faith,  Perhaps that is why God does not come to you?

[The Brain]

Ah, I was waiting for crazy Ark to blame me for god not being open to me.


Oh well, I've asked god to forgive me and make a place for me in heaven so I guess I'll see you there !!

[The Brain]

Oh hang on a minute..... Do you mean I just have to pretend that god is with me and I'll feel better ???

[old_school]

Happy

 

[old_school]

There sure is a whole lot of "evidence for God's spirit here on Earth"...

 

 

I can see that the conversation had reached a very childish level.
 

[The Brain]

Yes, about the time you turned up trying to bullshit everybody with your childlike lies.

Lol

[shadowhawk]

Always the same content.  Nothing but hostility.  Be happy and enjoy God.  Loved the video.  Thanks 

[The Brain]

So are you going to worship my chocolate god or not?

I can offer you all sorts of crap if you like, it's not like you'll know whether it's real or not anyway so why worry?

Chocolate god doesn't want you to feel guilty for touching yourself or wearing different fabrics or having naughty thoughts about your neighbours.

Chocolate god isn't going to send you to a nasty firery death for enternity for not believing in him.

All you have to do is worship him by eating chocolate...

And you get eternal everlasting chocolate in chocolate heaven.


The greatest thing is I don't even need to prove he's real, I just need you to want to believe he's real.

You'll do all the work of making him real inside your head for me.

[The Brain]

I can tell you're considering it......

[Danail Bulgaria]

 

 

 

 

Question.  Some of these orb like lights are not witnessed through a camera lens is that correct?  There are eye witness accounts?

 

This is correct.
 

 

 

Interesting.  We can't discount it as lens flair in every case.  You think it is the Holy Spirit.  I think the question, why is there something rather than nothing is a question we each have to answer with faith.  That there are orbs at all is the real mind bogeler.  Why?  What does it all mean?  Seen with the atheists eyes of faith that is just an orb but seen with theistic eyes of faith its very existence is evidence for God.  There is a lot more to what we are seeing than just the physical manifestation. 
 

 

 

You can't discount it as a lens flair in every case, but still there are many other phenomenons - sphere shaped lightenings, reflections of planets and the moon, viewing the moon or planets in an unusual places or day times. Atmospheric energy discharges, other still not explored things.

 

I agree.  Some things have short term explanations or partial answers to some questions but there are more issues than may meet the simple minds eye.  Even knowing it is a lens flair in some cases does not solve all the questions or things we can learn from it.

 

 

It is about the belief system here. People, who believe in God, don't need reasoning and thinking for what they have seen. For them each unexplained event is an absolute evidence of God. That's that. Full stop. This is not the correct path to search answers. The correct path is to question everything, and backing it up with evidences. If you can't get enough evidences, then the correct way is to say "I don't know what's that". 

[old_school]

 

 

 

 

 

Question.  Some of these orb like lights are not witnessed through a camera lens is that correct?  There are eye witness accounts?

 

This is correct.
 

 

 

Interesting.  We can't discount it as lens flair in every case.  You think it is the Holy Spirit.  I think the question, why is there something rather than nothing is a question we each have to answer with faith.  That there are orbs at all is the real mind bogeler.  Why?  What does it all mean?  Seen with the atheists eyes of faith that is just an orb but seen with theistic eyes of faith its very existence is evidence for God.  There is a lot more to what we are seeing than just the physical manifestation. 
 

 

 

You can't discount it as a lens flair in every case, but still there are many other phenomenons - sphere shaped lightenings, reflections of planets and the moon, viewing the moon or planets in an unusual places or day times. Atmospheric energy discharges, other still not explored things.

 

I agree.  Some things have short term explanations or partial answers to some questions but there are more issues than may meet the simple minds eye.  Even knowing it is a lens flair in some cases does not solve all the questions or things we can learn from it.

 

 

It is about the belief system here. People, who believe in God, don't need reasoning and thinking for what they have seen. For them each unexplained event is an absolute evidence of God. That's that. Full stop. This is not the correct path to search answers. The correct path is to question everything, and backing it up with evidences. If you can't get enough evidences, then the correct way is to say "I don't know what's that". 

 

 

I know that in the opening post is a photograph of both the Holy Spirit and a chariot of God.
 

[The Brain]

Yet you can't prove it and only you believe it.

Why does your god mock you so ?

[old_school]

Yet you can't prove it and only you believe it.

Why does your god mock you so ?

 

Scriptural Evidence.

 

The only way that we can identify and understand the Holy Spirit and chariots of God is through scripture. I have proven it through scripture.
 

[The Brain]

Don't talk shit...you've taken photos of orbs from a GHOST HUNTING website and linked them in your own mind to some old crap in the bible.

Just the same as you tried to link the photos of giant skeletons to a story in the bible.


You're an idiot, I bet your children are idiots.

[old_school]

[The Brain]

Oh look, a photo of god as chocolate, PROOF, that my chocolate god is real.

That's how it works isn't it Old Fool ?

Find a photo anywhere off the internet and make a story around it?

[The Brain]

Now get on your knees and worship my god.

[mikeinnaples]

I love how atheist can find no proof in God, yet science has many conflicts that can't be logically explained, yet most atheist take it as fact.

 

You are making no sense to me.

If I had proof of a God I wouldn't be atheist, I would be a <insert religion here>. Perhaps you could provide an example of a conflict that an atheist may take as a 'fact' ? I would suggest being careful in using the word 'fact' as you did.

 

Mankind has a long history of explaining away the unknown as evidence of divinity. Modern religions, to date, have been no exception.

[Lewis Carroll]

Candy man is MajinBrian who proposed a candy bar as god.  No disrespect intended.  God, God, God does not come to you?  I wonder why.  God does come to me all the time, or I should say He never leaves  me.  You finish with your profession of faith,  Perhaps that is why God does not come to you?

 

 

I was simply making a comparison.

 

You see God in magical, flying orbs.

Others see God in candy bars and dirty laundry.

[mikeinnaples]

On a side note, I really have to wonder why we allow such threads to exist within this community. We have a hard enough time validating ourselves in the eyes of the general public without nonsense like this making it vastly more difficult. I really believe that this entire sub forum needs to be removed.

[Lewis Carroll]

On a side note, I really have to wonder why we allow such threads to exist within this community. We have a hard enough time validating ourselves in the eyes of the general public without nonsense like this making it vastly more difficult. I really believe that this entire sub forum needs to be removed.

 

 

I COMPLETELY agree. I have been considering bringing up the issue with forum moderators. I feel threads like these (as well as the users starting and supporting the threads) are really hurting and discrediting the community.

Edited by MajinBrian, 18 May 2015 - 07:27 PM.

[mikeinnaples]

I know that in the opening post is a photograph of both the Holy Spirit and a chariot of God.
 

 

Not even close, you are completely wrong about the chariot of God. This is the chariot of God and it pulls the sun across the sky each day.

 

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(actual photograph taken by me this morning)

 

[Ark]

I love how atheist can find no proof in God, yet science has many conflicts that can't be logically explained, yet most atheist take it as fact.

You are making no sense to me.
If I had proof of a God I wouldn't be atheist, I would be a <insert religion here>. Perhaps you could provide an example of a conflict that an atheist may take as a 'fact' ? I would suggest being careful in using the word 'fact' as you did.

Mankind has a long history of explaining away the unknown as evidence of divinity. Modern religions, to date, have been no exception.

Would you say you know Aathiesm is real?


Or would you just say you have faith in atheism, Also if you read all my posts you'll get the jist of what I meant as I already illustrate it pages ago. Thanks for the civil reply though.

[mikeinnaples]

Scriptural Evidence.

 

The only way that we can identify and understand the Holy Spirit and chariots of God is through scripture. I have proven it through scripture.
 

 

 

 

 

I can see that the conversation had reached a very childish level.
 

 

 

 

 

Yes. Yes it has.

[mikeinnaples]

 

 

I love how atheist can find no proof in God, yet science has many conflicts that can't be logically explained, yet most atheist take it as fact.

You are making no sense to me.
If I had proof of a God I wouldn't be atheist, I would be a <insert religion here>. Perhaps you could provide an example of a conflict that an atheist may take as a 'fact' ? I would suggest being careful in using the word 'fact' as you did.

Mankind has a long history of explaining away the unknown as evidence of divinity. Modern religions, to date, have been no exception.

Would you say you know Aathiesm is real?


Or would you just say you have faith in atheism, Also if you read all my posts you'll get the jist of what I meant as I already illustrate it pages ago. Thanks for the civil reply though.

 

 

Atheism is real. Catholicism is real. Buddhism is real. <insert religion> is real. They are all equally real because people adhere to those beliefs (or lack thereof). For example, we can provide evidence that Catholicism is 'real' because there are people actively following that faith and those people are the 'evidence'. The real question is not whether or not a particular belief system is real, but whether or not what is being believed in is in fact real.

 

 

There is no proof in the existence or lack of existence of any one god or gods. Proving the lack of belief in divinity behind atheism is impossible, because in order to do, one would have to exist in all of space/time simultaneously and have the capability to verify divinity vs. technology. In other words,  in order to verify the lack of a true divinity with 100% absolute certainty, one would have to be divine themselves thus disproving the lack of divine presence. In comparison, proving religious beliefs is relatively easy as all the divinity in question has to do is 'speak up' on a divine scale.

 

 

Faith in atheism no. I am only atheist until proven otherwise.

Edited by mikeinnaples, 18 May 2015 - 07:55 PM.

[shadowhawk]

So are you going to worship my chocolate god or not?

I can offer you all sorts of crap if you like, it's not like you'll know whether it's real or not anyway so why worry?

Chocolate god doesn't want you to feel guilty for touching yourself or wearing different fabrics or having naughty thoughts about your neighbours.

Chocolate god isn't going to send you to a nasty firery death for enternity for not believing in him.

All you have to do is worship him by eating chocolate...

And you get eternal everlasting chocolate in chocolate heaven.


The greatest thing is I don't even need to prove he's real, I just need you to want to believe he's real.

You'll do all the work of making him real inside your head for me.

 

You are just a mocker with nothing to say.  I could engage you but you are not really interested.  So, neither am I.
 

[shadowhawk]

 

 

 

 

 

Question.  Some of these orb like lights are not witnessed through a camera lens is that correct?  There are eye witness accounts?

 

This is correct.
 

 

 

Interesting.  We can't discount it as lens flair in every case.  You think it is the Holy Spirit.  I think the question, why is there something rather than nothing is a question we each have to answer with faith.  That there are orbs at all is the real mind bogeler.  Why?  What does it all mean?  Seen with the atheists eyes of faith that is just an orb but seen with theistic eyes of faith its very existence is evidence for God.  There is a lot more to what we are seeing than just the physical manifestation. 
 

 

 

You can't discount it as a lens flair in every case, but still there are many other phenomenons - sphere shaped lightenings, reflections of planets and the moon, viewing the moon or planets in an unusual places or day times. Atmospheric energy discharges, other still not explored things.

 

I agree.  Some things have short term explanations or partial answers to some questions but there are more issues than may meet the simple minds eye.  Even knowing it is a lens flair in some cases does not solve all the questions or things we can learn from it.

 

 

It is about the belief system here. People, who believe in God, don't need reasoning and thinking for what they have seen. For them each unexplained event is an absolute evidence of God. That's that. Full stop. This is not the correct path to search answers. The correct path is to question everything, and backing it up with evidences. If you can't get enough evidences, then the correct way is to say "I don't know what's that". 

 

 

That is nonsense.  People who believe in God use reason just like anyone else.  We have reasonable faith.  Everybody has and lives by faith.  Without faith we could not even practice reason.