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[Dakman]

 

So god uses a weather event that causes mass destruction and death to transport people to him?. Why would he need the use of such an event?. Why would he need the physical body of that person?. Doesn't god just deal in peoples souls?. Why would god also create these events in areas of non population?

 

The word "whirlwind" was used to describe a spiritual tunnel. The LORD was delivering Elijah as a spirit into heaven and not his body. This is the same tunnel that people having NDE's mention traveling through in the afterlife.
 

 

So what was the actual reason for your post in the first place then ?

[mikeinnaples]

More of the same.    Listen to yourselves!!!  Nothing but personal attacks and you have said zero!!!  And I should not dismiss this?  This is Honest debate??  

 

 

Again, if anyone so much as questions your behavior or disagrees with you, despite maintaining a fair level of civility, you complain that you are being personally attacked. This is not an acceptable way to interact on a forum if you actually want to engage in a discussion fairly.

 

 

Telling someone they are saying nothing, despite them putting a lot of thought and time into post on the subject matter at hand, is extremely rude. Ignoring the content of what someone posts and/or taking it out of context with intent is also extremely rude. Complaining about being personally attacked when someone calls you out for being rude and disrespectful to them ...well, that is just childish.

 

 

So you keep telling me I say nothing regardless of what I post, be it on topic or not. What exactly have you said that has any value whatsoever?

[Dakman]

 

You haven't answered the questions regarding your apparent knowledge of how god operates only after his actions are questioned


As mentioned, you make stuff up to give the appearance that you know how god operates but yet it's really just creative excuses and lies to excuse your god

 

Some of us actually do have a brain.
 

 

So you're a liar and story teller then, no explanation of your seemingly extensive knowledge of how god operates?

 

Only stories to cover up for god's failings.

[shadowhawk]

 

 

So god uses a weather event that causes mass destruction and death to transport people to him?. Why would he need the use of such an event?. Why would he need the physical body of that person?. Doesn't god just deal in peoples souls?. Why would god also create these events in areas of non population?

 

Are you saying you know God does not interact ever with the physical world?  What answer do you expect to your questions?
 

 

Are you saying god does interact with the world using known weather events?

 

 

No I did not say that  No you don't know that.
 

[shadowhawk]

 

More of the same.    Listen to yourselves!!!  Nothing but personal attacks and you have said zero!!!  And I should not dismiss this?  This is Honest debate??  

 

 

Again, if anyone so much as questions your behavior or disagrees with you, despite maintaining a fair level of civility, you complain that you are being personally attacked. This is not an acceptable way to interact on a forum if you actually want to engage in a discussion fairly.

 

 

Telling someone they are saying nothing, despite them putting a lot of thought and time into post on the subject matter at hand, is extremely rude. Ignoring the content of what someone posts and/or taking it out of context with intent is also extremely rude. Complaining about being personally attacked when someone calls you out for being rude and disrespectful to them ...well, that is just childish.

 

 

So you keep telling me I say nothing regardless of what I post, be it on topic or not. What exactly have you said that has any value whatsoever?

 

 

Read what you have been saying again.  like this post all you are doing is calling names and saying nothing.  There is no content!  rave on.

[Dakman]

 

 

 

So god uses a weather event that causes mass destruction and death to transport people to him?. Why would he need the use of such an event?. Why would he need the physical body of that person?. Doesn't god just deal in peoples souls?. Why would god also create these events in areas of non population?

 

Are you saying you know God does not interact ever with the physical world?  What answer do you expect to your questions?
 

 

Are you saying god does interact with the world using known weather events?

 

 

No I did not say that  No you don't know that.
 

 

Seems christians claim all manner of happenings to be attributed to their god.

[shadowhawk]

Christians claim that God created what exists.  Everything that begins to exist has a cause .  The cosmos begin to exist.  Therefore the cosmos has a cause.  That cause is God.  And your observation is?

[Lewis Carroll]

Christians claim that God created what exists.  Everything that begins to exist has a cause .  The cosmos begin to exist.  Therefore the cosmos has a cause.  That cause is God.  And your observation is?

 You're making assumptions, SH.

[shadowhawk]

Well say something meaningful.  What are they?

[old_school]

 

 

So god uses a weather event that causes mass destruction and death to transport people to him?. Why would he need the use of such an event?. Why would he need the physical body of that person?. Doesn't god just deal in peoples souls?. Why would god also create these events in areas of non population?

 

The word "whirlwind" was used to describe a spiritual tunnel. The LORD was delivering Elijah as a spirit into heaven and not his body. This is the same tunnel that people having NDE's mention traveling through in the afterlife.
 

 

So what was the actual reason for your post in the first place then ?

 

 

There are spiritual tunnels out there in the spirit world and they are witnessed by people having NDE's. These experiences are recorded by medical doctors. And these experiences have been recorded in the Holy Bible as well. 
 

 

 

You haven't answered the questions regarding your apparent knowledge of how god operates only after his actions are questioned


As mentioned, you make stuff up to give the appearance that you know how god operates but yet it's really just creative excuses and lies to excuse your god

 

Some of us actually do have a brain.
 

 

So you're a liar and story teller then, no explanation of your seemingly extensive knowledge of how god operates?

 

Only stories to cover up for god's failings.

 

 

I am not a liar.
 

[old_school]

 

Christians claim that God created what exists.  Everything that begins to exist has a cause .  The cosmos begin to exist.  Therefore the cosmos has a cause.  That cause is God.  And your observation is?

 You're making assumptions, SH.

 

 

I have shown you photographs of the Holy Spirit and a chariot of God. No assumptions there.

[Lewis Carroll]

 

 

Christians claim that God created what exists.  Everything that begins to exist has a cause .  The cosmos begin to exist.  Therefore the cosmos has a cause.  That cause is God.  And your observation is?

 You're making assumptions, SH.

 

 

I have shown you photographs of the Holy Spirit and a chariot of God. No assumptions there.

 

 

I can't even take you seriously...

[shadowhawk]

 

 

 

Christians claim that God created what exists.  Everything that begins to exist has a cause .  The cosmos begin to exist.  Therefore the cosmos has a cause.  That cause is God.  And your observation is?

 You're making assumptions, SH.

 

 

I have shown you photographs of the Holy Spirit and a chariot of God. No assumptions there.

 

 

I can't even take you seriously...

 

However, you made the statement I am making assumptions and I asked you what they are.

[old_school]

 

 

 

Christians claim that God created what exists.  Everything that begins to exist has a cause .  The cosmos begin to exist.  Therefore the cosmos has a cause.  That cause is God.  And your observation is?

 You're making assumptions, SH.

 

 

I have shown you photographs of the Holy Spirit and a chariot of God. No assumptions there.

 

 

I can't even take you seriously...

 

 

Ah, but I am serious.
 

[old_school]

Near Death Experience - Meets Jesus

 

[The Brain]

Christians claim that God created what exists. Everything that begins to exist has a cause . The cosmos begin to exist. Therefore the cosmos has a cause. That cause is God. And your observation is?

You're making assumptions, SH.

I have shown you photographs of the Holy Spirit and a chariot of God. No assumptions there.

I can't even take you seriously...

Ah, but I am serious.

Your psychiatrist was serious when he told you to take your medication regularly

[Clacksberg]

Not all NDE'rs experience good things some end up waist deep in mud and similar experiences for what feels like an eternity.

That\ll put a stop to any idle thoughts !

[Lewis Carroll]

 

 

 

 

Christians claim that God created what exists.  Everything that begins to exist has a cause .  The cosmos begin to exist.  Therefore the cosmos has a cause.  That cause is God.  And your observation is?

 You're making assumptions, SH.

 

 

I have shown you photographs of the Holy Spirit and a chariot of God. No assumptions there.

 

 

I can't even take you seriously...

 

However, you made the statement I am making assumptions and I asked you what they are.

 

 

You're making assumptions based on "Christian claims".

 

Christian claims (Assumptions):

1. God exists

2. God created what exists

3. Everything that begins to exist has a cause

4. The cosmos began to exist

 

Plus, even if the cosmos was "caused", you are assuming the cause was God

Edited by MajinBrian, 25 May 2015 - 01:12 AM.

[shadowhawk]

I said

1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause.

2. The cosmos begin to exist.

3.  Therefore the cosmos has a cause.

4.  Christians believe that cause is God.

 

Nothing I said is an assumption but is based on fact.

[The Brain]

"1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause"

This is a fact is it?

[platypus]

I said

1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause.

2. The cosmos begin to exist.

3.  Therefore the cosmos has a cause.

4.  Christians believe that cause is God.

 

Nothing I said is an assumption but is based on fact.

You are, again, making four unsubstantiated claims. Itäs saddening to see how shaky Christiannity's foundations are...

[Clacksberg]

Can statement 1 be refuted in anyway?

[old_school]

Messin' with Sasquatch.

 

[shadowhawk]

Can statement 1 be refuted in anyway?

1. Everything that begin to exist has a cause. 

 

It cannot be refuted and is in fact true no matter how it is blamelessly DECLARED tp be false.    

 

[old_school]

Messin' with Sasquatch.

 

Edited by old_school, 26 May 2015 - 12:22 AM.

[The Brain]

Christianity is disgusting, it harbours and protects child sex offenders and does nothing to protect the children.

[mikeinnaples]

 

Read what you have been saying again.  like this post all you are doing is calling names and saying nothing.  There is no content!  rave on.

 

Perhaps you should read what you have been writing again and review how it will be taken by the people you are directing your comments towards. Like the others, this comment from you is rude, says nothing, and serves no purpose other than perhaps an attempt to 'troll' me.

 

Can statement 1 be refuted in anyway?

1. Everything that begin to exist has a cause. 

 

It cannot be refuted and is in fact true no matter how it is blamelessly DECLARED tp be false.  

 

 

So what caused the God you believe in?
 

[mikeinnaples]

Everything that begins to exist has a cause.

The concept of a God began to exist

Therefore the concept of God has a cause

That cause is man.

 

 

[The Brain]

Lol

[old_school]

 

 

Read what you have been saying again.  like this post all you are doing is calling names and saying nothing.  There is no content!  rave on.

 

Perhaps you should read what you have been writing again and review how it will be taken by the people you are directing your comments towards. Like the others, this comment from you is rude, says nothing, and serves no purpose other than perhaps an attempt to 'troll' me.

 

Can statement 1 be refuted in anyway?

1. Everything that begin to exist has a cause. 

 

It cannot be refuted and is in fact true no matter how it is blamelessly DECLARED tp be false.  

 

 

So what caused the God you believe in?
 

 

 

God is the Creator of all things both visible and invisible.