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#1 ImmortalSpace

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 02:02 AM


What are some ways to get subcutaneous fat? I mean mainly facial fat, you know like getting a rounder face which I have sort of however

since I have been losing weight and then gaining it back again I lost a lot of fat obviously. So does gaining weight have any benefits for facial fat? I miss my baby face :,(

Any thoughts and ideas, Personally I'm thinking of gaining more weight, i'm not overweight really, more like normal but I would rather weigh a little more to have a little more facial fat.  



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Posted 12 April 2015 - 02:10 AM

Gaining weight will certainly increase the amount of fat in your face. Not sure if cycling your weight is really the reason for lower subcutaneous fat, it should be possible for fat to be stored where it has been lost? As fat cells do not disappear, they just become smaller in size. I'm sure if you've read a few threads in here you are aware of sunscreen - preventing loss of subcutaneous fat is another benefit many people aren't aware of.. http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23639700


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#3 ImmortalSpace

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 02:15 AM

Yeah, I have been wearing sunscreen religiously for almost two years now. Of course with rare moments where I got tired of it, but I've kept it up.

I'm thinking of gaining some weight, eating more healthy fats (while of course taking flaxseed oil of 500 mg omega3's to balance the omega fats) and gonna try to meditate (I have an anxiety disorder which makes weight gain faster ironicly xD)



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#4 ImmortalSpace

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 03:56 AM

Good news, I started to gain weight the healthy way. Eating healthy food, healthy fats from things like nuts and avocados and eating more of course.

Subcutenous fat already increased and it's only been a day or so.. Mind you i'm a Gluten Free Vegan.



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Posted 14 April 2015 - 01:50 AM

"Gluteal fat has more monounsaturated fatty acids and less saturated fatty acids than facial fat." http://www.ncbi.nlm....ubmed/11405760/

"Intakes of polyunsaturated fatty acids, including n-3 fatty acids, and trans fatty acids are reflected in the adipose tissue but that intakes of saturated and monounsaturated fatty acids are not." http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/1858698

PUFAs cause wrinkles in the dermis/ epidermis, but plump up the subcutaneous layer? Who knows anymore

Edited by DanielEdward, 14 April 2015 - 01:52 AM.


#6 ImmortalSpace

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 04:22 AM

To clarify what that means, it's saying that eating polyunsaturated fats results in a more full and plump face?



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 09:52 PM

Yes, but some say PUFAs cause skin aging via ALEs and AGEs in the non subcutaneous layers, so I don't know what to suggest

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Posted 15 April 2015 - 11:02 PM

So apparently Saturated Fats generally are stored as visceral fat and PUFAS are well known to be stored in adipose tissue (Sources down below)..

but the big deal is that PUFAS are known to create lean tissue.. this is a double edged sword. I don't even know anymore.

 

Apparently PUFA's  cause oxidation. 

 

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Dietary oxidized n-3 PUFA induce oxidative stress and inflammation"

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22865918

 

 

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Overfeeding Polyunsaturated and Saturated Fat Causes Distinct Effects on Liver and Visceral Fat Accumulation in Humans"

http://www.medscape....warticle/827768

 

Can you send me the sources on PUFA's causing AGES\ALES? 

Really confused what to think because there are Pro's and Cons to this.

I think we need a bigger discussion on this. 



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Posted 16 April 2015 - 01:09 AM

Here's the source on AGEs: http://inhumanexperi...e-than.html?m=1

Jared has been pictured with products containing canola oil so some PUFA must be OK

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 03:52 AM

Since PUFA's increase adipose tissue, that's a huge deal and I read that Sunflower oil is best for that.

Is it possible to just drink tea and take Turmeric to counteract the free radicals during the oxidation of PUFAS?

Because as far as I know that's the best way to increase Subcutaneous fat- of which I lost during Dieting.  



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Posted 10 June 2015 - 07:15 PM

Update:

 

I've consumed more Poly-Unsaturated fats than what I would normally consume.. like animal fats and such.

My face has gotten more full, but the drawback is it fills in your features. Now theres the problem of burning off that fat lol.

 



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Posted 18 June 2015 - 03:03 AM

I found simething that works undoubtedly to a small yet noticeable degree.

 

 

 

At first I was trying a cream with a small amount of 5% Volufilline which only worked to such a small degree it wasn't enough to make a true difference...........

 

However, I have been using a bust cream called Isosensuals and holy crap, over the last month and a half using it twice a day on my hollowed out areas (mid face and under eyes) I can say it HAS made my under eye area a bit less hollow, but the real winner here is the cheek area......... Judging from photos I have seen of people getting hyuloronic acid fillers in their cheek area, I would say my results are comparable to somebody who was given about half a vile of restylane in each cheek. Not a huge difference but certainly noticeable....... Very happy here as I have had hollow cheeks since 18 for some reason that don't exactly help me age well


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 01:14 PM

Many years ago I read an article that athletic swimmers have an increase in subcutaneous fat. Their bodies adapt to the cold water.



#14 TheFountain

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 05:09 AM

How about subcutaneous muscle? Protein+Facial exercises FTW!



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 02:55 PM

Excess facial fat turns into jowls quickly with age.  It is best to maintain a lean face in my esthetic opinion.  Compare celebrities who have aged well with those who haven't.  The babyfaces tend to go downhill very quickly. 


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 03:41 AM

Here's the source on AGEs: http://inhumanexperi...e-than.html?m=1

Jared has been pictured with products containing canola oil so some PUFA must be OK

 

Thanks for this info/link. I realize this post and more so the article is a bit old but it's lead me to draw the conclusion that I'm going in the right direction here.

 

This quote here...

 

As I mentioned before, simply avoiding cooking with oils rich in PUFAs is probably not enough, because exposing them to high heat and air in the frying pan isn't the only thing that causes them to form AGEs. Reactive species such as radicals, transition metals, other electrophiles, and enzymes can also cause their oxidation inside the body (link).
 
In fact, it's not certain based on the studies mentioned here just how bad food-derived ALEs are. Perhaps ALEs from food are less important than ALEs formed endogenously. Endogenous AGEs certainly appear to play a bigger role than exogenous AGEs, although consuming excess amounts of AGEs is probably not a good idea either.
 
...leads me to conclude that perhaps I should continue my ongoing intake of carnosine, garlic and green tea extract (as well as regular green tea drinking). Carnosine and garlic are known to help remove these metals among other things and for some reason green tea is a means of reducing the oxidation by radicals.
 
I'm sure this is a question for another thread but I wonder if your body, given time, can break down AGEs if their accumulation is greatly slowed in any way. I realize they don't know of anything that can break the AGE crosslinks but surely they don't just stay there permanently do they?

 


Edited by Nate-2004, 03 July 2017 - 03:42 AM.


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 01:49 PM

I've recently achieved a more 'triangle' shaped facial dimension. Not quite sure why this is but I'd like to know why! Any guesses?

 

I lost a lot of weight in Feb but I've slowly put it back on - through inactivity and deviating slightly from the diet I know I should be eating. So my guess is - Sagging ( I'm 31 so I guess I'm seeing a change now), and that I've lost the weight but put it back on but on the lower end of my face around my jaw and slightly upwards. I look a bit chubby, it's strange as I'm very skinny around my torso area.



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Posted 04 July 2017 - 05:24 PM

What do you think about regular iced water head sinking?



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Posted 01 October 2018 - 01:00 AM

I found simething that works undoubtedly to a small yet noticeable degree.

 

 

 

At first I was trying a cream with a small amount of 5% Volufilline which only worked to such a small degree it wasn't enough to make a true difference...........

 

However, I have been using a bust cream called Isosensuals and holy crap, over the last month and a half using it twice a day on my hollowed out areas (mid face and under eyes) I can say it HAS made my under eye area a bit less hollow, but the real winner here is the cheek area......... Judging from photos I have seen of people getting hyuloronic acid fillers in their cheek area, I would say my results are comparable to somebody who was given about half a vile of restylane in each cheek. Not a huge difference but certainly noticeable....... Very happy here as I have had hollow cheeks since 18 for some reason that don't exactly help me age well

 

Hi Qowpel,

 

I'm glad you found something that helped!

 

But a lot of reviews on their website are fake and I find it strange that something so groundbreaking has not had more publicity.

 

Also, they say on their website: "we've been around forever so you're in good hands". Where?

 

It also sounds fishy to me.

 

If you have any more info or could post before and after pics so much appreciated!

 

Thanks a lot







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