Shoulder Pain and GABA Advice pls :D
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hallucinogen
, Oct 25 2005 07:52 AM
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#1
Posted 25 October 2005 - 07:52 AM
I'm a bodybuilder and I lift weights regularly, but i've been experiencing pains in my right shoulder for the past year now, the pain is not unbearable and usually only comes after the work out, but I'm afraid that it can get worse, I tried just taking a break from the gym for up to 1-2 weeks, but that time didn't fully heal it. I am also taking Joint support, MSM*Chondroitin&Glucosamine(500mg each), I think it helps somewhat but all that is not enough...Could you recommend me what to do please?
Also , would you recommend taking 2-3g of GABA pownder dissolved in 8 ounces of water 30mins before sleep for a better quality sleep and gH release? It has this unpleasant shortness of breathe side effect:p - is it really safe :O ?
Thank you!
Also , would you recommend taking 2-3g of GABA pownder dissolved in 8 ounces of water 30mins before sleep for a better quality sleep and gH release? It has this unpleasant shortness of breathe side effect:p - is it really safe :O ?
Thank you!
#2 Guest_da_sense_*
Posted 25 October 2005 - 10:19 AM
I would see a doctor. That kind of condition is not to play with, if it didn't heal in a year it will hardly heal by itself. Go see a doctor.
#3
Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:29 PM
Have you looked into cissus?
#4
Posted 25 October 2005 - 01:29 PM
If you are lifting, can I presume that you know the importance of not just doing e.g. bench presses but do enough e.g. rowing? And doing regular rotator cuff exercises?
Unless you've torn something a doctor will be useless to you.
Go to www.activerelease.com and find a practitioner in your area. Active release technique while....no way around it, rotator cuff work is very painful for about a minute or 5. However it is the closest thing to a miracle I know of.
The alternative is to go see an orthopod. He can't help you, but if you are lucky he will know of a good PT who can. basically you need an old school PT who will basically be doing a milder version of the active release stuf only over a series of sessions. Slower and less painful. Ultimately perhaps not as effective.
I just went the PT route myselfbut they didn't get it all, and I'm going to an ART person at some point to get the rest.
Unless you've torn something a doctor will be useless to you.
Go to www.activerelease.com and find a practitioner in your area. Active release technique while....no way around it, rotator cuff work is very painful for about a minute or 5. However it is the closest thing to a miracle I know of.
The alternative is to go see an orthopod. He can't help you, but if you are lucky he will know of a good PT who can. basically you need an old school PT who will basically be doing a milder version of the active release stuf only over a series of sessions. Slower and less painful. Ultimately perhaps not as effective.
I just went the PT route myselfbut they didn't get it all, and I'm going to an ART person at some point to get the rest.
#5
Posted 25 October 2005 - 02:46 PM
YES! YES! When I saw the topic of the thread I immediately clicked on it to say the exact same thing as ScottL. ART is the answer (and regular massage in general). I just finished massage school and my teacher was one of the first nationally-certified in ART (she has since let her license lapse because she blew out her thumbs doing it). I have persistent levator/rhomboid issues because I ride a bike and lift, and ART kicked my trigger points' bums.
Please, whatever you do, get it taken care of and avoid doctors. Anti-inflammatories and surgery will just permanently jack your rotator cuff. (I give the same advice for carpal tunnel).
Please, whatever you do, get it taken care of and avoid doctors. Anti-inflammatories and surgery will just permanently jack your rotator cuff. (I give the same advice for carpal tunnel).
#6
Posted 25 October 2005 - 02:46 PM
I also have some shoulder pain that doesn't seem to go away. It isn't too painful, but it sure is annoying. I am afraid it may be a small rotator cuff tear. I don't think any supplement can fix it. PT or surgery is probably needed.
#7
Posted 25 October 2005 - 03:03 PM
Well, one of the first things to do is determine what is causing the pain so you don't continue the action after it is resolved. For people doing weight resistance training, supraspinatus often causes serious issues (especially if you're working on those delts). Most often, an ART-certified therapist can resolve this issue with simple treatment, whereas a doctor would do surgery and render your rotator cuff less effective overall.
Stay away from surgery that involves cutting your muscles, tendons, etc. if you can help it.
And get regular massage.
Stay away from surgery that involves cutting your muscles, tendons, etc. if you can help it.
And get regular massage.
#8
Posted 27 October 2005 - 06:59 AM
Thank you! I will try to take care of it asap, I just hope I won't have to travel far out of British Columbia to find an ART Certified person :D
#9
Posted 28 October 2005 - 06:12 PM
You might try hyaluronic acid.
Here is a more advanced version for better delivery.
http://betterlife.co...sp?prod_id=9192
CMO (cetylmyristoleate) is also worth trying.
Here is a more advanced version for better delivery.
http://betterlife.co...sp?prod_id=9192
CMO (cetylmyristoleate) is also worth trying.
#10
Posted 28 October 2005 - 06:25 PM
Cissus quadrangularis as mentioned by
Shepard above looks very impressive.
http://www.leverage.tv/cissus.htm
Shepard above looks very impressive.
http://www.leverage.tv/cissus.htm
#11
Posted 08 December 2007 - 04:26 PM
I too have recently gotten myself a rotator cuff injury, by foolishly bench pressing too much on my first night back! :(
Anyone know a good source of cissus? Just emailed an active release guy from Dublin, might give it a go
Anyone know a good source of cissus? Just emailed an active release guy from Dublin, might give it a go
#12
Posted 08 December 2007 - 05:21 PM
Any kind of online bodybuilding store should carry cissus. There are quite a few companies selling it now.
You might want to look into some shoulder strengthening exercises: extrernal/vertical/angled rotation, scapular pushups/dips, face pulls, etc.
You might want to look into some shoulder strengthening exercises: extrernal/vertical/angled rotation, scapular pushups/dips, face pulls, etc.
Edited by shepard, 08 December 2007 - 05:22 PM.
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