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#31 shadowhawk

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 06:31 PM

 

 

Information about the shape & age of the Earth, the origin of species, global flood etc. in the Bible is incorrect. Therefore it's not an inerrant book that is always literally correct. Everyone is aware of this, right? 

... As far as origin of the species and the global flood go, to the best of my knowledge science hasn't established any concrete proof on this.

You have been misinformed. Scientific evidence has established both evolution and global flood at the level of scientific fact. The level of certainty in these matters is 100%, at the same level as "Australia exists". 

 

 

Low information and misinformed.  :)  Offer still stands.  You have been asked to show your source  for this nonsense,  Haha.  :)

 



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Posted 14 April 2017 - 11:41 PM

Say what??!



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Posted 15 April 2017 - 08:29 PM

Say what??!

:)))

 



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 04:35 PM

 

Say what??!

:)))

 

Did religious types deprive you of education and replace it with "alternative facts"? Or are you self-taught?



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 08:39 PM

I am self taught, went to state and Christian schools.  What do you base your absurd, low information bigotry on?  Also tell me what are the "alternative facts?"



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:15 PM

The Bible is silent on the issue of cannabis, just as it is silent on organ transplants, antibiotics, and cloning. These things weren't known to the writers in the Bible, and they simply have nothing to say about them. The Bible neither says it is allowed, or prohibited.

 

As for the Constitution, we do not have any such right. Since the founding, we've had laws regulating what you are allowed to sell, and what you are allowed and not allowed to do with your body. Prostitution has been illegal in many places both immediately before and immediately after the country was founded. If prostitution can be regulated, then so too can intoxication. Just as the Bible is silent on the issue of Cannabis, so is the Constitution. It can be both legal, or illegal. Both are possible under the Constitution.


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#37 platypus

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:36 PM

I am self taught, went to state and Christian schools.  What do you base your absurd, low information bigotry on?  Also tell me what are the "alternative facts?"

"Alternative facts" say that there was a global flood recently and that species did not evolve from earlier forms. This is very think BS of course..



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:33 PM

The Bible is silent on the issue of cannabis, just as it is silent on organ transplants, antibiotics, and cloning. These things weren't known to the writers in the Bible, and they simply have nothing to say about them. The Bible neither says it is allowed, or prohibited.

 

As for the Constitution, we do not have any such right. Since the founding, we've had laws regulating what you are allowed to sell, and what you are allowed and not allowed to do with your body. Prostitution has been illegal in many places both immediately before and immediately after the country was founded. If prostitution can be regulated, then so too can intoxication. Just as the Bible is silent on the issue of Cannabis, so is the Constitution. It can be both legal, or illegal. Both are possible under the Constitution.

 

Very true, but we do not have to have a direct comment to draw principals and do theology and ethics.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:50 PM

 

I am self taught, went to state and Christian schools.  What do you base your absurd, low information bigotry on?  Also tell me what are the "alternative facts?"

"Alternative facts" say that there was a global flood recently and that species did not evolve from earlier forms. This is very think BS of course..

 

Yes just as those saying the Bible is speaking of a global flood,  Why are you insisting on this low information nonsense.  This is not the place but you might continue this discussion elsewhere.  This also goes for evolution which has been discussed at length in the Religion section.  Obviously you are having a hard time staying on topic  and you seem itching to argue "Alternative facts," here which have absolutely nothing to do with the topic.  What do you think of weed?



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:57 PM

The Bible is silent on the issue of cannabis, just as it is silent on organ transplants, antibiotics, and cloning. These things weren't known to the writers in the Bible, and they simply have nothing to say about them. The Bible neither says it is allowed, or prohibited.

 

As for the Constitution, we do not have any such right. Since the founding, we've had laws regulating what you are allowed to sell, and what you are allowed and not allowed to do with your body. Prostitution has been illegal in many places both immediately before and immediately after the country was founded. If prostitution can be regulated, then so too can intoxication. Just as the Bible is silent on the issue of Cannabis, so is the Constitution. It can be both legal, or illegal. Both are possible under the Constitution.

 

Cannabis falls into seed bearing plant and a green plant. The Bible quite clearly mentions cannabis generally, but not specifically as shown below.

 

Genesis 1:11, 29-30

 

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so.

 

 

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

 

The US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence provide the people with broad principles which define rights and guarantee protection from unnecessary governmental intrusions. In the case of cannabis, our government has intruded unnecessarily on our right to possess and use cannabis without a legitimate reason - especially in the case of the strains of cannabis that are not psychoactive (won't get you high). Did you look at http://cannabisasmed...bis/index.html ?

 


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:09 PM

I have no problem with any plant used in a constructive way even if not mentioned in the Bible.  However I have also had lots of experience with people who misuse.  Not the same thing.

 



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:27 PM

shadowhawk, the Bible forgot to mention that all species, including humans, are produced in the evolutionary process. That is an error, if one reads the Bible literally.


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 12:54 AM

shadowhawk, the Bible forgot to mention that all species, including humans, are produced in the evolutionary process. That is an error, if one reads the Bible literally.

If you want to discuss your misconception I would be happy to do so in the spirituality and religion section where it would be on topic.  I invite you to do so and have updated the intelligent design topic with the invitation.

 



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Posted 22 April 2017 - 08:41 AM

 

shadowhawk, the Bible forgot to mention that all species, including humans, are produced in the evolutionary process. That is an error, if one reads the Bible literally.

If you want to discuss your misconception I would be happy to do so in the spirituality and religion section where it would be on topic.  I invite you to do so and have updated the intelligent design topic with the invitation.

 

The discussion on evolutionary processes belongs in science forum, not a religious one. If you wish to discuss scripture we could talk why the Bible implies there was a global flood (there wasn't) or why Intelligent Design is not mentioned in any way in the Bible..


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#45 shadowhawk

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 11:52 PM

I know you are itching to get off topic here but again and again and again I invite you to discuss it else where.  :)



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Posted 15 September 2019 - 12:44 AM

What you guys don't understand is, that God hides things in an effort to encourage man to search them out. Man is then rewarded or positively reinforced through the act of discovery and continues to search the Scriptures and His creation for more answers and solutions. In the case of cannabis and the human body, this discovery has already been made (see video below). However, how we use cannabis for health and life extension is just starting to take off. Like, for instance, including raw cannabis in our lifestyle change or life extension programs.

 



#47 shadowhawk

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 05:40 PM

William7 sources for your claim?  All hings we did not know at one tine are desirable.  Pot has both desireable and negative sides.

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 08:02 PM

William7 sources for your claim?  All hings we did not know at one tine are desirable.  Pot has both desireable and negative sides.

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That's only if you heat it and use the high THC strains. There's no psychotoxicity from ingesting raw cannabis or using the high CBD, low THC strains. In the video below about the advantages of raw cannabis, Dr. William Courtney describes the use of raw cannabis as a "dietary essential." Raw cannabis should be an essential part of everyone's longevity diet.


 



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Posted 16 September 2019 - 09:25 PM

Again this does not contradict anything  said. ou can do evil with about anything.  Just use it in an evil way.  All things are good but we can use the good for evil.



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Posted 16 September 2019 - 11:32 PM

Again this does not contradict anything  said. ou can do evil with about anything.  Just use it in an evil way.  All things are good but we can use the good for evil.

 

You totally lost me on that one. Cannabis science supports what Dr. Courtney says. There's been quite a bit research on CBD acid (CBDA) and THC acid (THCA). See, for instance, Cannabis Therapeutics and the Future of Neurology, at https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC6200872/. Even though I'm no expert, it's looking like raw cannabis is the way to go.



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Posted 16 September 2019 - 11:39 PM

You mean you can't think of any way to misuse cannabis? I can think of lots of ways.

 



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Posted 17 September 2019 - 07:35 AM

You mean you can't think of any way to misuse cannabis? I can think of lots of ways.

 

I've never heard of anyone misusing cannabis in raw form or the high CBD, low THC strains. I don't think its possible. As far as the high THC strains go, the intoxication and other side effects from them is much less than for most other drugs. People are dying left and right from a number of pharmaceuticals. Nobody dies from cannabis. That says a lot for safety. As Dr. Allen says in the video, all cannabis use is medicinal whether you understand the science behind it or not.


 



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Posted 17 September 2019 - 05:39 PM

Iasked you if you could THINK of any way to misuse cannabis not have you heard of any way.I find it he.  Can't believe you never heard of it either.  Anything can be misused.  I have reciently heard of vaping it has killed several.  On top of that I know many who have wasted their lives smoking it.  If it is beyond your consciousness than OK.  I have no need to convince you otherwise.  This being said, I also believe there are things good with cannabis.



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Posted 17 September 2019 - 07:07 PM

Iasked you if you could THINK of any way to misuse cannabis not have you heard of any way.I find it he.  Can't believe you never heard of it either.  Anything can be misused.  I have reciently heard of vaping it has killed several.  On top of that I know many who have wasted their lives smoking it.  If it is beyond your consciousness than OK.  I have no need to convince you otherwise.  This being said, I also believe there are things good with cannabis.

 

Although they're not sure yet on what is in vape juice that's killing the people, they do suspect it to be an additive. Last I read they strongly suspect vitamin E. People who sell THC vapes illegally have been adding vitamin E acetate to the THC oil in an effort to make it appear to the buyers that they're getting more THC than they really are. It's not the THC or the nicotine that's doing the harm - it's the additives they're mixing in.
 



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Posted 17 September 2019 - 07:42 PM

Well than vitamin E has the negative side but not cannabis which has zero ability to have a bad side. :)







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