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#781 RenewYou

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 09:45 PM

meatsauce said he must have mistakenly used a bag that had been used for food before thus the sticky goop & bits of dark matter throughout the entire thing &  stuck to vials

 

Still not useable as they are now covered in whatever was in the bag

 

I'm not comfortable trying to clean them off enough to salvage as alcohol would seep in & ruin the 2 vials that do contain a substance as they are not in sealed glass but plastic & don't think they are waterproof (nor protected from whatever was in the bag)

 

My phone camera is broken so I'll see if a friend can snap shots for me 



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Posted 24 October 2018 - 01:01 AM

meatsauce said he must have mistakenly used a bag that had been used for food before thus the sticky goop & bits of dark matter throughout the entire thing & stuck to vials

Still not useable as they are now covered in whatever was in the bag

I'm not comfortable trying to clean them off enough to salvage as alcohol would seep in & ruin the 2 vials that do contain a substance as they are not in sealed glass but plastic & don't think they are waterproof (nor protected from whatever was in the bag)

My phone camera is broken so I'll see if a friend can snap shots for me


Why are there empty vials? The lack of care shown for something costing over $1000 is pretty ridiculous.
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Posted 24 October 2018 - 01:20 AM

meatsauce said he must have mistakenly used a bag that had been used for food before thus the sticky goop & bits of dark matter throughout the entire thing &  stuck to vials

 

So your purchase from Meatsauce came literally covered in meat sauce? WTF!?!


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 03:38 PM

Meatsauce has said to send it back & that he will refund the cost when he is able - which is kind of him.

 

It seemed to be a mistake / human error using plastic shrink wrap which had been previously used for food.

 

I believe we must all be ultra careful sanitation-wise, with all we use topically, ingested & especially injected, especially in this grand experiment we're bravely embarking on. Eliminating as many stray variables as possible is of the utmost importance otherwise we'll never know what is what in the end & may ultimately saddle us with negative consequences we never intended. 

 

May the learning curve safely continue ~


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 10:37 PM

Meatsauce has said to send it back & that he will refund the cost when he is able - which is kind of him.

 

I see it more as a lame attempt at damage control.

Given the previous reports with meatsauce's actions, take his " when I am able" with a shovel of salt.

 

I am shocked as you are how one can be such an irresponsible individual with others' funds&merchandise entrusted with him.

This food wrapper fiasco should not have even entered the realm of possibility of shipping AN INJECTABLE compound.

The fact that some of the vials are empty adds insult to injury.

 

I strongly recommend all of the participants in this ordeal to follow through with their lawsuit idea so no one ever tries to pull off such antics again.


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 11:15 PM

Will keep you posted & sure do hope you're wrong, that the refund actually happens sooner vs later as I just wish to move on from this 



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Posted 01 November 2018 - 08:34 PM

Considering the likelihood that senescenct cell population increases with age, what would possibly be most useful would be results in a 60-90 year old, ideally one with a pre-existing record in some endurane or strength sport to compare to. Anything like that likely to happen?



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Posted 05 November 2018 - 09:03 PM

meatsauce said he must have mistakenly used a bag that had been used for food before thus the sticky goop & bits of dark matter throughout the entire thing &  stuck to vials

 

Still not useable as they are now covered in whatever was in the bag

 

I'm not comfortable trying to clean them off enough to salvage as alcohol would seep in & ruin the 2 vials that do contain a substance as they are not in sealed glass but plastic & don't think they are waterproof (nor protected from whatever was in the bag)

 

My phone camera is broken so I'll see if a friend can snap shots for me 

 

 

Someone shipped you an injectable in a baggie that previously housed his ham sandwich?

 

Totally unacceptable.

 

No way in hell I'd use something sourced from someone that treated a injectable so carelessly.

 

 


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 04:59 AM

Someone shipped you an injectable in a baggie that previously housed his ham sandwich?

 

Totally unacceptable.

 

No way in hell I'd use something sourced from someone that treated a injectable so carelessly.

Is this some kind of joke, or is it some sort of false flag operation to justify government clampdown on people trying to save their lives from the government's sclerotic institutions?


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#790 Daniel Cooper

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 07:10 PM

Is this some kind of joke, or is it some sort of false flag operation to justify government clampdown on people trying to save their lives from the government's sclerotic institutions?

 

 

You'd have to ask meatsauce about that.  He's the one that's shipping peptides smeared in mayonnaise.


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 02:56 PM

It appears as if meatsauce has decided to keep both the tainted peptide & my money

 

I mailed it back to him upon our agreement that he would refund me, however since sending him tracking info for the package, I've not heard a word from him despite my many attempts to acquire a refund date

 

I can only assume at this point he has decided to keep both the peptide & the money I paid him for it

 

I know somehow I'll earn the money back over time & one day prehaps be able to purchase real, sterile FOXO4 but It saddens me to see a human behave with such carelessness & what now appears to be intentional malice

 

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#792 smithx

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:13 PM

There may be legal options you could pursue.

 

It appears as if meatsauce has decided to keep both the tainted peptide & my money

 

I mailed it back to him upon our agreement that he would refund me, however since sending him tracking info for the package, I've not heard a word from him despite my many attempts to acquire a refund date

 

I can only assume at this point he has decided to keep both the peptide & the money I paid him for it

 

I know somehow I'll earn the money back over time & one day prehaps be able to purchase real, sterile FOXO4 but It saddens me to see a human behave with such carelessness & what now appears to be intentional malice

 

:(

 



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 08:08 AM

First: sorry for the person that received the peptide packaged like that, and now lost both his peptide and money. That obviously sucks very much. 

 

With regard to the comment of MeatSauce having had a malicious intent, I think something else is at play. Frankly having had a bit more feedback since I last posted here, MeatSauce really doesn't appear to have had a malicious intent imo. I do think he thought he could perhaps earn some money with this group buy, and with arranging group buys in general. (When I did an online search months back I found a website somewhere that indicated he was interested in setting up a peptide business or something, if I remember it well). However in the process he may have realized how much more time consuming such a group buy is and requiring a meticulous approach, and that he got a bit overwhelmed and in over his head. I don't want to speculate too much but he seems to be running into some financial issues too. So I tend to think panic is the reason he disappeared. He probably wants to pay you back and didn't want to let you down and that is why he promised to do so, but doesn't have the finances. That is my impression a bit frankly after the entire saga. I understand that doesn't make it much better for you though. It still sucks obviously.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 08:37 AM

I saw some recent comments of De Keizer btw, and he of course could not and did not recommend buying and using FOXO4-dri on yourself. He did however mention that he knew people were buying FOXO4-dri and trying it on themselves. And that he didn't think they were using 'the real deal' (in fact his comment seemed to suggest he had actually had access to some of these peptides sold as FOXO4-dri and had them tested). So that again strengthens me in my belief that if another group buy is arranged, it is the most sensible approach to order the peptide from the manufacturers for De Keizer's study (as Smithx already suggested back then). 

 

I am still interested in such a group buy. I gave up a few months back since members said they were interested but later decided they were not (which I understand and I think it is good people only do this if they really stand behind it). However, it meant that in the end there were not enough members to come up with a decent group buy. 

 

If members are still interested in such a group buy, I would love to hear it. 

This is what I came up with the last time, but this is months back, so I'd like to hear if these members are still interested: 

1. Gregv 100mg

2. Death2aging 300mg

3 Moondancer 100mg

4. Hrub 100mg

5. Benko 100mg (not sure if you decided you didn't want to partake after all, Benko?)

6. Anonymous member 100mg

 

Are these members still interested now (2-3 months later)? 

Did I forget about anyone or would anyone else still want to partake? 

We were hoping we could get 100mg (in 10mg aliquots) for an approximate price of $1500 from the manufacturer for De Keizer's study at a purity level of >95%. But I really have no clue about the price at this point, as we don't have a recent price quote from them yet. 



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 03:25 PM

"he didn't think they were using 'the real deal' "

 

I would say this is true. I have tried 3 suppliers so far.

Meatsauce's first group buy (I don't remember who the supplier was)

Meatsauce's second group buy (Novopro)

Chengdu Youngshe Chemical Co., Ltd.

 

The first supplier was in glass vials with rubber tops which I think was the closest to the real deal.

Novopro was in plastic vials sealed with tape. It looked like the first supplier but more clumpy. I worry that the plastic vials are not as good at sealing out moisture.

Youngshe and had plastic vials sealed with tape. They had more material in the vial but it did not look as white as the other ones.

 

If you are ordering from these places, I would be sure that you ask for glass vials with rubber tops. And, as Moondancer said, it is going to cost a lot but material from a lab in the US or Europe is a plus in my opinion.



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 07:47 PM

The sad thing is that I’m on the Fisetin bandwagon now, but have this stuff sitting in my freezer. It will probably go to waste. If someone wants to buy it for half price/OBO, let me know.





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