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#91 AdamDavis

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 02:16 PM

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Apparently the starter of this topic found a date and consequently lost the time to contribute to imminst. [lol]


Yeah perhaps it has gone on for far too long...

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 05:01 PM

members of happy families live longer ;)

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 06:23 PM

Ok, if all other methods of mate aquisition elude you....rent a ferrari, a bright red one that everyone within 10 miles will know is a car that costs more than their house, and you'll have more women thatn you can imagine my freind. [thumb]

It seems to work with even the homeliest looking chaps , even if proper hygeine is not one of their strong points. [:o]

You must be careful not to completely fall for her though, women aquired through such methods are not what you would call "long term" potential mates.

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 11:41 PM

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I actually tried really hard to get into the job/wife/mortgage/family thing but here I am fueling my mind with cutting edge science and making big plans for my eternity.


Seriously! Anyone who says the first category is more important is a traditionalist ninny.

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 11:43 PM

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You must be careful not to completely fall for her though, women aquired through such methods are not what you would call "long term" potential mates.


Men should not use female avatars on an internet forum, in my opinion.

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 11:58 PM

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Men should not use female avatars on an internet forum, in my opinion.

I've always thought his avatar is a little strange (given that he IS male). However, I find myself reading his posts thinking of "him" as an attractive female. Which, usually means, I consider them in a more positive light than the typical male internet geek.

It's thought manipulation! [:o]

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 12:25 AM

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Ok, if all other methods of mate aquisition elude you....rent a ferrari, a bright red one that everyone within 10 miles will know is a car that costs more than their house, and you'll have more women thatn you can imagine my freind. [thumb]


I'm extremely doubtful that this works consistently for any guy in any area for several reasons.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 12:31 AM

Having visited Ukraine for business twice in the last several months (great game developers are over there, and cheap), I have to say that anyone interested in a beautiful, intelligent, non-feminist girl for a long-term partner should considering a Ukrainian woman. There is simply no question in my mind, having traveled much of the world, that they are the most beautiful, in-shape, healthy, open-minded, cheerful women in the world (though, I have never been to an Asian country, and it might be that they can compete). I now understand the Beetles song, Back in the USSR: "The Ukraine girls really knock me out, they leave the West behind." My god they were right. It's like a candy store of super models over there, and they love Americans. In America now, I simply cannot find women who measure up, who are as beautiful, impossibly thin (but in perfect shape -- not skin and bones), and without the spoiled attitude of American women.

I can't wait for my next trip over there.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 12:39 AM

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I have to say that anyone interested in a beautiful, intelligent, non-feminist girl for a long-term partner should considering a Ukrainian woman. 


And you can buy them on the internet.

#100 MichaelAnissimov

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 12:40 AM

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though, I have never been to an Asian country, and it might be that they can compete.


My dad married some Phillipino chick after he divorced my mum. I think he got tired of a woman who could think for herself and who he couldn't control. I am fine with her, but for romance I personally prefer braniacs like my sister and girlfriend.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 12:43 AM

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for romance I would personally prefer braniacs like my sister and girlfriend.

As long as sister does not = girlfriend [tung]

#102 MichaelAnissimov

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 12:47 AM

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As long as sister does not = girlfriend


Incest avoidance is a taboo that comes from evolutionary psychology. Descriminating against brother/sister romance is no different than descriminating against interracial marriage. I think my sister is relatively smart and hot, but I've found better, and she is against incest anyway.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 12:55 AM

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I think my sister is relatively smart and hot, but I've found better, and she is against incest anyway.


Please tell me that you didn't find that out after propositioning her.

#104 DukeNukem

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 12:56 AM

>>> And you can buy them on the internet. <<<

I've heard about this, and now I know the real story behind it. I don't think you can characterize it as "buying them." It's more like meeting them, no different than Match.com. But, I've heard there's a lot of scamming going on, and so you need to make sure you deal with a legit site. It's funny, on my last trip back, I sat next to a wealthy stock broker who was coming back from his 15th trip to Ukraine. He has a business over there now, and a girlfriend that he met online, so he was telling me all the details, and said that there are many good matching sites for Russian/Ukrainian women.

The deal with the women over there is that they greatly outnumber the men (wars, plus men kill themselves via bad habits -- average age for a man is 59 vs. 72 for a woman). Plus, a great percentage of men drink themselves silly. I witnessed this: men would walk around the streets drinking beer bottles starting at noon each day -- beer is as common as soda over there. You just cannot imagine how many men drink, and do it all the time, and everywhere. In large part this is due to the economic stress they're under, and the relatively undesirable living conditions. Plus, a majority of men hit women over there, and it's accepted behavior -- the police look the other way (and likely hit their women, too). And, it's normal for men to be unfaithful, because they outnumber women, and women too often look the other way on this expected behavior.

There are other factors at play, too, but the bottom-line is that due to necessity women are the stronger, better educated, responsible sex in Ukraine, and it's only reasonable that they want to find a non-Russian/Ukraine man to spend their lives with. If I were in their shoes, I'd be looking to get out, too. This doesn't make them bad in any way.

Seriously, before I went to Ukraine, I had only heard the typical Russian Bride spin, but just as most the world thinks immortality is for wackos, the truth behind Russian women is far from the average person's uninformed perception.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 01:00 AM

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Please tell me that you didn't find that out after propositioning her.


No, I've found it out by watching anime that included incest with her. ;)

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 01:03 AM

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Incest avoidance is a taboo that comes from evolutionary psychology.  Descriminating against brother/sister romance is no different than descriminating against interracial marriage.  I think my sister is relatively smart and hot, but I've found better, and she is against incest anyway.


It remains a useful evolutionary adaptation when those relationships lead to reproduction with the additional associated risks, at least until medical science provides the means for effectively intervening.

Edited by cosmos, 23 July 2006 - 01:15 AM.


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Posted 23 July 2006 - 01:11 AM

Michael you really make me think about viewpoints I had never considered before. I really don't think anyone is hurting too much from not being able to date a sibling. (or, presumably, other family members; mothers, fathers, uncles, aunts, cousins, grandparents, etc.) There are enough "fish in the pond" as it were, I would think, but that is no reason to outlaw it, I suppose. I wonder if when the genetic problems associated with reproducing with a relative are fixed that there will be a restructuring of laws (in the US and other places) to allow for marrying?

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 04:02 AM

One key to this whole girlfriend thing... Number of attempts.... Even a mediocre baseball player could break Hank Aarons all-time Home Run record given enough plate appearances... In the meeting girls qame YOU control the number of plate appearances... there is no limit. If guy A is better looking than guy B and gets twice as much attention from women, then all guy B needs to do to match A's "production" is to hit on twice as many women as him.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 08:52 AM

Well I once posted a link to the "Evolution inbreed theory of aging"

http://www.agingtheory.com/

This is apparently a list of the top 10 countries where women outnumber men:

http://tigerx.com/trivia/women.htm

But there may not be any need to grab your passport. Often a small town will exist that has a nearby university that offers courses popular amongst females such as nursing and education which will swell the ratio in your favour.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 01:24 PM

Another factor to consider... the closer your own conceptions of female attractiveness match those of the societal average the more of a hard time you might have finding the woman of your dreams..... I am not particularly attracted to tall skinny white girls with blond hair.... Clearly the market disagrees with me... What qualities do YOU like that you think the dating market undervalues/overvalues...? Of course this doesnt just apply to aesthetic criteria. I think that among other things it undervalues intelligence fairmindedness a broad cultural literacy and curiosity.

Edited by Utnapishtim, 23 July 2006 - 01:47 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2006 - 03:34 PM

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Another factor to consider... the closer your own conceptions of female attractiveness match those of the societal average the more of a hard time you might have finding the woman of your dreams..... I am not particularly attracted to tall skinny white girls with blond hair....

I think we're often attracted to people who look similar to us (to some degree). Probably a bit of the oedipus complex built into that fact (where family members tend to look similar).

As a tall skinny white boy, I'm unfortunate in the fact that I'm attracted to the societal norm.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 03:52 PM

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Incest avoidance is a taboo that comes from evolutionary psychology. Descriminating against brother/sister romance is no different than descriminating against interracial marriage. I think my sister is relatively smart and hot, but I've found better, and she is against incest anyway.

Yes, perhaps as homosexuality became legal four decades ago, incest, paedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia etc. may be just that some time in the future (under certain terms?).

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 04:05 PM

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necrophilia

[:o]

I think it will be quite awhile until having sex with corpses is legal/not a social taboo, as I think it probably should be.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 04:15 PM

Just a random thought [wis]

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 07:46 PM

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>>> And you can buy them on the internet. <<<

I've heard about this, and now I know the real story behind it.  I don't think you can characterize it as "buying them."  It's more like meeting them, no different than Match.com.  But, I've heard there's a lot of scamming going on, and so you need to make sure you deal with a legit site.  It's funny, on my last trip back, I sat next to a wealthy stock broker who was coming back from his 15th trip to Ukraine.  He has a business over there now, and a girlfriend that he met online, so he was telling me all the details, and said that there are many good matching sites for Russian/Ukrainian women.

The deal with the women over there is that they greatly outnumber the men (wars, plus men kill themselves via bad habits -- average age for a man is 59 vs. 72 for a woman).  Plus, a great percentage of men drink themselves silly.  I witnessed this: men would walk around the streets drinking beer bottles starting at noon each day -- beer is as common as soda over there.  You just cannot imagine how many men drink, and do it all the time, and everywhere.  In large part this is due to the economic stress they're under, and the relatively undesirable living conditions.  Plus, a majority of men hit women over there, and it's accepted behavior -- the police look the other way (and likely hit their women, too).  And, it's normal for men to be unfaithful, because they outnumber women, and women too often look the other way on this expected behavior.

There are other factors at play, too, but the bottom-line is that due to necessity women are the stronger, better educated, responsible sex in Ukraine, and it's only reasonable that they want to find a non-Russian/Ukraine man to spend their lives with.  If I were in their shoes, I'd be looking to get out, too.  This doesn't make them bad in any way.

Seriously, before I went to Ukraine, I had only heard the typical Russian Bride spin, but just as most the world thinks immortality is for wackos, the truth behind Russian women is far from the average person's uninformed perception.


Yeah, makes complete sense to me. I think my next vacation will be to Russia. Too bad I can't have the Russian girls come to me instead of having to go to them...I guess I am lazy.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 08:01 PM

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Seriously, before I went to Ukraine, I had only heard the typical Russian Bride spin, but just as most the world thinks immortality is for wackos, the truth behind Russian women is far from the average person's uninformed perception.


Immortality might only be for wackos right now, only because we can't back it up with our current tech, right? Duke: I was partly inspired to join the The Methuselah Foundation 300 after reading about your generous donation of $2,000. I'll match that in two years; for sure. We've got to get science moving so can live as long and as healthy as possilbe...

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 04:06 AM

Been doing some searching, just for the fun of it (on two confirmed legit sites):

http://www.anastasia...des/ads-166.htm
http://www.anastasia...des/ads-117.htm
http://www.anastasia...Daria-45292.htm
http://www.anastasia...tiana-75248.htm
http://www.anastasia...com/top1000.htm
http://www.russian-w...es/ru5454.shtml
http://www.russian-w...es/sf0910.shtml
http://www.russian-w...es/me0590.shtml
http://www.russian-w...es/tx7304.shtml


Good luck finding women like this in the States. ;-)

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 04:36 AM

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Been doing some searching, just for the fun of it (on two confirmed legit sites):


There's no way this can be legitimate... can it? I wonder how independently wealthy you need to be to take advantage of something like this. Not all of us have sold several software companies. [lol]

(Maybe I'll finally be able to find that rare girl who's actually 5'11" and thin!)

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 07:37 AM

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When I make some more cash, Ukraine/Russia I come! Those women are no joke, duke, dude.

I like

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 10:04 AM

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for romance I would personally prefer braniacs


I am beginning to more and more agree with this sentence. I have/had ( it is yet to be fully decided ) a girlfriend who is extremely beautiful and social and fun, but also very shallow. I believe that if I wanted the normal life of a career, house and family she would be a great companion for me. But the lack of meaningful conversations is in increasing amounts starting to bother me. I just really don't care about things like who one of her girlfriends slept with last night or what they did drunk or that she needs, again, new shows ;)

On the other hand I have yet to meet any women to have a serious conversations with. Not that I would have been looking much, since being in a relationship, but I still have this feeling that they tend to be a rare gem to find.




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