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#1 Rosanna

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 11:46 PM


Hi everyone

 

Does anyone know the research Dr Sinclair has recently talked about that is showing olive oil to have longevity benefits?

 

I have never seen olive oil as natural because it's bottled and concentrated, ie it doesn't grow on trees like that.  None the less I'm curious about the mechanism by which it could work.  I'm not a keto fan, and generally follow a very low fat diet.  However I'm interested in thoughts on all sides.

 

Interested in your thoughts.



#2 TheFountain

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Posted 29 January 2020 - 08:53 AM

Lots of things that are good for us do not grow on trees.

 

Free weights and exercise don't grow on trees.

 

I recommend steering clear of Hipster ideas about health and do a combination of what ever works best for you and your blood work.

 

By the way blood labs don't grow on trees either. But knowing your blood work numbers could be potentially good for your health.


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#3 Rosanna

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 12:19 AM

Thanks for your thoughts.  Curious about olive oil because of the work of Dr Caldwell Esselstyn, hardly call him hipster when he reversed coronary disease from many patients by removing virtually all fat, meat, dairy and oil (including olive oil) from their diets (and showed this on angiograms)

 

Coronary disease runs through my father's side.  I don't think checking bloodwork tells you the amount of coronary disease that's building up, also a cholesterol check means little because heart disease still occurs with normal cholesterol.  High HDL isn't necessarily a good thing either, and many people on strict vegan diets such as those of Esselstyn have low HDL and still show reversal of atherosclerosis.  So up to a point I'm not sure about how useful blood results are?

 

My reasoning is that there's no way of knowing that you are doing damage / or not doing damage to your arteries with oil, even olive oil.  I was just curious about the science of what Dr Sinclair was saying as that might help me understand.  While Dr Esselstyn may be knowledgeable about how to reverse disease, Dr Sinclair may be knowledgeable about how to prevent it in the first place.

 

My reference to things growing on trees was more about how natural foods would be thought to be less likely to create inflammation as we evolved with them, but I take your point that not everything natural is best for us.  Maybe olive oil does concentrate the factor that's in it that is good for us...   


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Posted 10 February 2020 - 05:46 AM

Thanks for your thoughts.  Curious about olive oil because of the work of Dr Caldwell Esselstyn, hardly call him hipster when he reversed coronary disease from many patients by removing virtually all fat, meat, dairy and oil (including olive oil) from their diets (and showed this on angiograms)

 

Coronary disease runs through my father's side.  I don't think checking bloodwork tells you the amount of coronary disease that's building up, also a cholesterol check means little because heart disease still occurs with normal cholesterol.  High HDL isn't necessarily a good thing either, and many people on strict vegan diets such as those of Esselstyn have low HDL and still show reversal of atherosclerosis.  So up to a point I'm not sure about how useful blood results are?

 

My reasoning is that there's no way of knowing that you are doing damage / or not doing damage to your arteries with oil, even olive oil.  I was just curious about the science of what Dr Sinclair was saying as that might help me understand.  While Dr Esselstyn may be knowledgeable about how to reverse disease, Dr Sinclair may be knowledgeable about how to prevent it in the first place.

 

My reference to things growing on trees was more about how natural foods would be thought to be less likely to create inflammation as we evolved with them, but I take your point that not everything natural is best for us.  Maybe olive oil does concentrate the factor that's in it that is good for us...   

 I'm going to experiment with a slightly modified version Dr Esselstyn's plan and see what the blood work results are from that.

 

My last total cholesterol was 205, LDL was 100 HDL was 92 with a paleo diet and Red yeast rice. 

 

Let's see what this does. 



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Posted 10 February 2020 - 09:22 PM

TheFountain, interesting experiment,  Dr Esselstyn is always very insistent that the plan is not modified in any way.  

 

Here in the UK cholesterol is measured differently so not really sure what your figures mean.  I had a total cholesterol of 3 which I was told was excellent, however

I thought HDL was a little low, this was some time back.  Both Dr Esselstyn and Dr Dean Ornish report that low HDL is not necessarily a problem, just to add to the confusion.  Since both have demonstrated atherosclerosis reversal on angiograms, I'm inclined to listen.

 

I'm personally not against a paleo diet though, I'm very wary of keto for obvious reasons I've read so much of Esselstyn and Ornish research, but paleo looks like a very healthy diet compared

to the average western diet.



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Posted 11 February 2020 - 04:39 AM

TheFountain, interesting experiment,  Dr Esselstyn is always very insistent that the plan is not modified in any way.  

 

Here in the UK cholesterol is measured differently so not really sure what your figures mean.  I had a total cholesterol of 3 which I was told was excellent, however

I thought HDL was a little low, this was some time back.  Both Dr Esselstyn and Dr Dean Ornish report that low HDL is not necessarily a problem, just to add to the confusion.  Since both have demonstrated atherosclerosis reversal on angiograms, I'm inclined to listen.

 

I'm personally not against a paleo diet though, I'm very wary of keto for obvious reasons I've read so much of Esselstyn and Ornish research, but paleo looks like a very healthy diet compared

to the average western diet.

 

Did they reverse it in the absence of surgery or in addition to surgery on high risk or already affected patients? 

 

To answer your cholesterol question, My figures are pretty good, but I want them amazing. 







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