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[Anthony_Loera]

Please comment on this offering found on Ebay.

Claims "contains 500 mg of trans-resveratrol per capsule"

2 - 60 capsule bottles for US $37.95

Scam?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/R...1QQcmdZViewItem

We've actually discussed this brand before.
I found it online and was fooled by the 500 mg also.
That's 500 mg total, only 250 of trans-Resveratrol. Thats $1.30 a gram.
RevGenetics R300 are a better deal.

Yup,

Here is the bottle's label:
http://resveratrol-i...l_500_Label.jpg

Notice that the dosage is 2 capsules not 1 capsule, and the trans-resveratrol is 50% of each capsule. So even though it has 60 capsules, it only has 30 servings per container at 2 capsules a serving.

A

Edited by Anthony_Loera, 03 December 2007 - 09:25 PM.

[missminni]

Please comment on this offering found on Ebay.

Claims "contains 500 mg of trans-resveratrol per capsule"

2 - 60 capsule bottles for US $37.95

Scam?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/R...1QQcmdZViewItem

We've actually discussed this brand before.
I found it online and was fooled by the 500 mg also.
That's 500 mg total, only 250 of trans-Resveratrol. Thats $1.30 a gram.
RevGenetics R300 are a better deal.

Yup,

Here is the bottle's label:
http://resveratrol-i...l_500_Label.jpg

Notice that the dosage is 2 capsules not 1 capsule, and the trans-resveratrol is 50% of each capsule. So even though it has 60 capsules, it only has 30 servings per container at 2 capsules a serving.

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Anthony
My dad is using the R300 and so far is very pleased with the results. He is taking 1 cap 3 times a day with meals since yesterday morning
and remains pain free, and hasn't needed vicadan. He told his chiropractor/nutritionist about it and she is very interested.
She is in Fort Lauderdale and I wouldn't be surprised if you hear from her. So,
it was a good thing afterall that the Post Office messed up.

[thenaturalstep]

Anthony_Loera, as i have understood, so r u the cheapest one. I ahve two question, i am from Sweden, will you add extra tax on my order and will i still have free shipping. Also i am 90 kg and 25 year old, and i am thinking about doing 300g each day. But maybe that is so little that it wont matter, but i don't know if i wont to spend more cash then that ...

[Anthony_Loera]

Anthony_Loera, as i have understood, so r u the cheapest one. I ahve two question, i am from Sweden, will you add extra tax on my order and will i still have free shipping. Also i am 90 kg and 25 year old, and i am thinking about doing 300g each day. But maybe that is so little that it wont matter, but i don't know if i wont to spend more cash then that ...

Regarding prices and being the cheapest:
This can change anytime, so keep watching the pricelist for changes...

About Sweden:
(the following applies to all US shippers not just RevGenetics)

I believe Sweden adds taxes are added by Sweden government based on the price of the product. I believe most other merchants on the list also do not charge taxes for international orders, we don't do it either.

I hope this helps.

Sweden / USPS prohibitions are shown below.

Prohibitions (130)

Arms and weapons.
Daggers and flick knives.
Firing caps and charged metal cartridges for small arms and artillery fuses.
Human remains.
Live plants and animals.
Lottery tickets and advertisements concerning lotteries.
Radioactive materials.


Restrictions
Addressees in Sweden must obtain prior authorization from the Swedish national food administration to import foodstuffs of animal origin such as meat, sausage, fat, and soups.
Articles of gold or silver must comply with Swedish regulations as to fitness.
Banknotes and coins exceeding 100 Swedish crowns in value, and securities require prior authorization of the Bank of Sweden.
Live bees must be sent direct to the Department of Bee Research of the University of Agricultural Sciences, Lantbruksuniversitetet, Forsoksavdelningen for bin, S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden.

Pharmaceutical drugs are admitted only by authorized importers.

I don't see a problem here regarding prohibitions.

As for free shipping to Sweden? Sorry, free shipping applies only to U.S. Subscribers at this time (I can only speak for RevGenetics), but I don't think anyone does free shipping internationally at this time.

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Edited by Anthony_Loera, 05 December 2007 - 04:19 PM.

[thenaturalstep]

Thanks for the information Anthony_Loera. If i understood it right, if i don't say anything to the Swedish government i don't have to pay any extra tax. Another question; for us international costumers it may be cheaper to buy big orders because of the shipping, is that possible? and do you get a cheaper price for doing so?. Do you at this moment have any customers from Europe?

Kindly TNS

[Anthony_Loera]

Thanks for the information Anthony_Loera. If i understood it right, if i don't say anything to the Swedish government i don't have to pay any extra tax. Another question; for us international costumers it may be cheaper to buy big orders because of the shipping, is that possible? and do you get a cheaper price for doing so?. Do you at this moment have any customers from Europe?

Kindly TNS

I think most retailers on the list do sell larger orders for better pricing on the product and shipping.

I am afraid I can only speak for our company regarding international customers. At the present, we have customers in Canada, Mexico, South Korea, France, Finland, Spain, Croatia, Australia, Russian Federation, New Zealand and some others including Estonia and Italy.

Send me a private IM, as this appears to be straying from the general price watch topic.

thanks
A

[sUper GeNius]

Question for Anthony. On your website I see the following. "
Only capsule products can be returned and are covered by our guarantee, powder products are not"

Does that mean that you resell the returns? Tylenol caps anyone?

[Anthony_Loera]

Question for Anthony. On your website I see the following. "
Only capsule products can be returned and are covered by our guarantee, powder products are not"

Does that mean that you resell the returns? Tylenol caps anyone?

Nope, but returning the capsule packaging is a requirement for the no questions asked refund.

thanks
Anthony

Edited by Anthony_Loera, 10 December 2007 - 06:13 PM.

[thenaturalstep]

Send me a private IM, as this appears to be straying from the general price watch topic.

thanks
A

With IM you mean pm?, which i have send you

Kindly TNS

[Anthony_Loera]

Send me a private IM, as this appears to be straying from the general price watch topic.

thanks
A

With IM you mean pm?, which i have send you

Kindly TNS

Sorry, been a bit busy, but I sent you a response.

thanks
A

[Anthony_Loera]

Made changes to price file.

Megaresveratrol: lower costs on bulk order, now leads low cost for 50% powder capsules.
Relentless: changes in bulk order prices
Ray&Terry: lower costs on bulk order
Natural Biology: lowered price a bit
NSI: small price change
Resvinatrol: small price change


cheers
A

[Anthony_Loera]

Edited Price watch.

A new "Now Vitamins product" was added.
The price per gram of the new rsv product is less than half of the original product also found on the list.

In my book, that is a pretty dramatic find! Thanks Lee for the heads up!

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[tintinet]

Hi Alex,

nope, we are seeing if producing capsules for private labels can benefit us, and we are testing response using capsules at cost without labeling/bottling.

We still produce our 500mg capsules for retail to the general public. I also invite you to join RevGenetics at the Las Vegas Natural Products Conference this July 20-22.

Thanks
Anthony Loera

The price list doesn't seem to include your X500 in the 200 tablet size and X500-100 is listed twice....Is this correct?

[Anthony_Loera]

Hi Alex,

nope, we are seeing if producing capsules for private labels can benefit us, and we are testing response using capsules at cost without labeling/bottling.

We still produce our 500mg capsules for retail to the general public. I also invite you to join RevGenetics at the Las Vegas Natural Products Conference this July 20-22.

Thanks
Anthony Loera

The price list doesn't seem to include your X500 in the 200 tablet size and X500-100 is listed twice....Is this correct?

Hi tintinet,

I am checking it now...
ok, the X500-100 is listed twice, one time for regular pricing, and another time for the monthly subscription pricing deal which is lower price, but benefits only folks who are comfortable with a monthly subscription. The X500-100 (200 capsules) is on line 40 I believe.

The monthly subscription can be canceled at anytime, no one is bound to some yearly contract or anything like that.

Another thing, I believe the many December specials (like our subscription pricing) will be over come January 1st, so check with your favorite resveratrol company (I know a few that are running specials), and see if there is a special you may want to take advantage of.

I hope this helps.
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[Anthony_Loera]

RevGenetics price changes for 50% powder, and some pricing was lowered for 99% capsules.

[EmbraceUnity]

I just noticed that RevGenetics no longer has the lowest price per gram. LEF's new Optimized Resveratrol product contains 15 grams per bottle. If one orders 4 bottles, the ongoing holiday price is $27.90, and the price per gram is 1.86 versus RevGenetics price of 1.87. Also, LEF's version comes with Quercetin to boot.

http://www.lef.org/n...l?source=SS701D

[Anthony_Loera]

I just noticed that RevGenetics no longer has the lowest price per gram. LEF's new Optimized Resveratrol product contains 15 grams per bottle. If one orders 4 bottles, the ongoing holiday price is $27.90, and the price per gram is 1.86 versus RevGenetics price of 1.87. Also, LEF's version comes with Quercetin to boot.

http://www.lef.org/n...l?source=SS701D

Hi

1- I just updated the price sheet, and they are still 16th on the list, others do have better pricing.
2- They aren't using 99% trans-resveratrol powder, they don't state the percentage on the label, as they are mixing their sources of resveratrol. They quality appears to be lower if you are comparing it against the 99% product. Compare it against the 50% product, and they are really not near the low price leaders which includes RevGenetics.
3- I have not been convinced Quercitin is the right addition to a resveratrol formulation at this time, I think other things are better for a formulation, but Quercitin is not one of them at this point.

Thanks

Anthony

Edited by Anthony_Loera, 06 January 2008 - 04:03 AM.

[EmbraceUnity]

Sorry Anthony,

I was looking at this link: http://www.revgeneti.../Comparison.htm

instead of here: http://www.revgeneti...ing08172007.htm

You are correct. I was just interested to see how the new LEF formula stacked up. It is much better than their last formula, but still not the cheapest around.

Edited by progressive, 06 January 2008 - 06:28 AM.

[Anthony_Loera]

Sorry Anthony,

I was looking at this link: http://www.revgeneti.../Comparison.htm

instead of here: http://www.revgeneti...ing08172007.htm

You are correct. I was just interested to see how the new LEF formula stacked up. It is much better than their last formula, but still not the cheapest around.

That comparison web page is pretty old, but I keep this one here up to date. If ever in doubt, just check this one here in the forums....

thanks
A

[SirtuinInvestor]

This may be a little off topic but I think that some on this board will find it interesting. All members on this forum have one thing in common, an interest in living a longer than normal lifespan without ever being afflicted by diseases of the aging. Should the research on sirtuins actually lead to longer lifespans, the economic ramifications would be enourmous. You think the social security system is in jeopardy now? Think about what happens if the average lifespan increases by only a few years. Immortality is expensive and, in this regard, I have set up a blog http://sirtuininvestor.blogspot.com/ that has been following the investment potential of Sirtuins and is a great place to do some due dilligence. Right now there is only one investable company but as the research moves forward, you can bet others will follow. Does anybody on this blog own Sirtris Pharmacueticals?

Sorry Anthony,

I was looking at this link: http://www.revgeneti.../Comparison.htm

instead of here: http://www.revgeneti...ing08172007.htm

You are correct. I was just interested to see how the new LEF formula stacked up. It is much better than their last formula, but still not the cheapest around.

[tintinet]

This may be a little off topic but I think that some on this board will find it interesting. All members on this forum have one thing in common, an interest in living a longer than normal lifespan without ever being afflicted by diseases of the aging. Should the research on sirtuins actually lead to longer lifespans, the economic ramifications would be enourmous. You think the social security system is in jeopardy now? Think about what happens if the average lifespan increases by only a few years. Immortality is expensive and, in this regard, I have set up a blog http://sirtuininvestor.blogspot.com/ that has been following the investment potential of Sirtuins and is a great place to do some due dilligence. Right now there is only one investable company but as the research moves forward, you can bet others will follow. Does anybody on this blog own Sirtris Pharmacueticals?

Sorry Anthony,

I was looking at this link: http://www.revgeneti.../Comparison.htm

instead of here: http://www.revgeneti...ing08172007.htm

You are correct. I was just interested to see how the new LEF formula stacked up. It is much better than their last formula, but still not the cheapest around.

I have accumulated small stake to which I plan add, at intervals. Maybe today......

Edited by tintinet, 08 January 2008 - 08:50 AM.

[smithx]

What is up with Revgenetics' strange pricing. I was considering purchasing from them, but a company who prices so oddly seems a bit untrustworthy

RevGenetics X500 and X1000 apparently are made from the same material. The only difference should be the size of the capsule. Two 500mg capsules require more work and more material than one 1000mg capsule.

So why then are they pricing it like this:

500mg - 100 capsules - 50gm of 99% resveratrol - $108.40 or $2.17 per gm.
1000mg - 120 capsules - 120gm of 99% resveratrol - $365.00 or $3.42 per gm.

Same material, big price difference. No obvious justification.

It's not what I'd expect from a reliable company.

[Anthony_Loera]

smithx,

you are correct the capsules both have the same 99% Trans-Resveratrol.

The X1000 is simply more expensive to produce, otherwise you would see more people producing them.
Why is it that we are the only people that currently make a 1000mg capsule?
It simply has a high cost to manufacture.

We will be competitive with the 500mg capsules like the X500 to help people consider Resveratrol,
but the X1000 capsule is the only one of its kind at the moment.

It is meant for those folks who simply want less capsules to take on a daily basis, and who have the means to afford the practicality of it. I know this might not sound reasonable to most people, but folks who know that their time is simply more valuable in life than money (and have the means) really understand why the X1000 capsule is the only choice for them. No issue with measuring powder, no dealing with a handful of capsules to carry.

They are definitely not meant for everyone.

And we don't expect most people to buy them at all.

The pricing doesn't speak about the companies reliability, it speaks about our internal business and marketing decisions. You may not like the price of our 1000mg capsules, and that is ok because of all the other options we have available. Don't get upset about it, it appears that you want the best bang for your buck, so I would ask you to consider loose powder. The price is right for most people, and you get all the benefits.

Regarding our company...We were to the first to introduce a Resveratrol 500mg capsule in January 2007, and the creation of a 1000mg capsule is what you would expect from a company that is growing and pushing the envelope, remember...

RevGenetics is the first and only company that makes a 1000mg capsule, and (supply/demand, and marketing aside...) that is just the simple fact.

You can go back and search all you want regarding the 500mg capsule and the 1000mg capsule, but it simply remains a unequivocal fact about our company. We may or may not always be ahead of the curve, but we will certainly strive to be.

A

What is up with Revgenetics' strange pricing. I was considering purchasing from them, but a company who prices so oddly seems a bit untrustworthy

RevGenetics X500 and X1000 apparently are made from the same material. The only difference should be the size of the capsule. Two 500mg capsules require more work and more material than one 1000mg capsule.

So why then are they pricing it like this:

500mg - 100 capsules - 50gm of 99% resveratrol - $108.40 or $2.17 per gm.
1000mg - 120 capsules - 120gm of 99% resveratrol - $365.00 or $3.42 per gm.

Same material, big price difference. No obvious justification.

It's not what I'd expect from a reliable company.

Edited by Anthony_Loera, 09 January 2008 - 09:23 PM.

[Anthony_Loera]

Ok folks
back to the Price Watch:

New powder supplier has been added to the list, I am not sure about the quality, but it appears they are the new price leader for 99% powder, but I need help classifying it...
(I don't see any labels or COA that states 99% Trans-Resveratrol, so it could be all cis-resveratrol, I simply don't know at this point).

I have emailed the folks to see what information they could provide, but If anyone orders from them, let us know and I will classify it appropriately.

Cheers!
A

[Anthony_Loera]

After some quick searching, I am thinking that the new supplier actually sells 50% trans-resveratrol powder and maybe saying it is 99% for marketing purposes
(similar to the another product that I couldn't classify on the price list properly until James Betz happily cleared it up)

I hope to have some answers that may help classify this properly soon...
A

Edited by Anthony_Loera, 09 January 2008 - 10:29 PM.

[health_nutty]

Wow that is an amazing price on 99% powder!!! That would be a great price on 50% powder! Please keep us updated.

Edited by health_nutty, 09 January 2008 - 11:08 PM.

[Anthony_Loera]

I ordered 100 grams to have it tested by AACL.
If the tests come out well (will take about 7-10 days after I receive it.)

It will be simply be a milestone in Trans-Resveratrol pricing... and I can see folks with a large quantity of resveratrol capsules in the warehouse simply go pale...

Oh yes, and I will also update the price watch list appropriately.
If it doesn't come back near our RevGenetics standards, we well place them where they are supposed to be on the price watch regarding quality and safety. I am hoping that we are looking at a milestone, it would definitely help us meet some consumer price points regarding capsules, other products, and get things rolling in a whole new direction that we have been meaning to move into.

I have my fingers crossed.
Anthony Loera

[edward]

I ordered 100 grams to have it tested by AACL.
If the tests come out well (will take about 7-10 days after I receive it.)

It will be simply be a milestone in Trans-Resveratrol pricing... and I can see folks with a large quantity of resveratrol capsules in the warehouse simply go pale...

Oh yes, and I will also update the price watch list appropriately.
If it doesn't come back near our RevGenetics standards, we well place them where they are supposed to be on the price watch regarding quality and safety. I am hoping that we are looking at a milestone, it would definitely help us meet some consumer price points regarding capsules, other products, and get things rolling in a whole new direction that we have been meaning to move into.

I have my fingers crossed.
Anthony Loera

I was about to re-order 99% Res as I am running low... and took a look at this thread and WOW 100 grams for $63 from these Vital Prime people. This is the best New Year's Present ever. I really hope the lab results confirm that this product really is what they say it is. Deciding right now whether to take a risk and order from these people or play it safe and order the usual from Mega-resveratrol or Revgenetics... I really need a COA at least, but Anthony's test results would be great...

Anthony, how will this new pricing affect your business?

[edward]

Quote directly from the Vital Prime Website: http://vitalprimelab...resveratrol.htm

"Our Resveratrol powder is currently only offered at 99% Trans-Resveratrol. We will be adding 50% shortly."

So it looks like they are claiming 99% Trans. (not trying to pass off Cis by not saying anything or trying to market 50% as 99%)... I really want this to be true

edit: added link

Edited by edward, 10 January 2008 - 04:32 AM.

[Hedgehog]

I ordered 100 grams to have it tested by AACL.
If the tests come out well (will take about 7-10 days after I receive it.)

It will be simply be a milestone in Trans-Resveratrol pricing... and I can see folks with a large quantity of resveratrol capsules in the warehouse simply go pale...

Oh yes, and I will also update the price watch list appropriately.
If it doesn't come back near our RevGenetics standards, we well place them where they are supposed to be on the price watch regarding quality and safety. I am hoping that we are looking at a milestone, it would definitely help us meet some consumer price points regarding capsules, other products, and get things rolling in a whole new direction that we have been meaning to move into.

I have my fingers crossed.
Anthony Loera

I was about to re-order 99% Res as I am running low... and took a look at this thread and WOW 100 grams for $63 from these Vital Prime people. This is the best New Year's Present ever. I really hope the lab results confirm that this product really is what they say it is. Deciding right now whether to take a risk and order from these people or play it safe and order the usual from Mega-resveratrol or Revgenetics... I really need a COA at least, but Anthony's test results would be great...

Anthony, how will this new pricing affect your business?

Hi Edward if you want I will test it for you. I need about 300mg. send me PM if you are intersted. This goes for other people. Send me a sample and I will test it for ONLY trans-cis purity.