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#421 maxwatt

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 07:49 PM

Hi Everyone,

James from Biotivia asked us to stop putting his products on the list that is hosted on our website:

Anthony,
Please remove all mention of Biotvia and its products from your web
site. You are misrepresenting our products. Regards, James


We have taken them off the product list for now, as this is the only place in our website that mentions his product. If anyone would care to help me understand how we misrepresent his product, please let me know.

If anyone cares to manually post their current prices as a post, I am sure it would be helpfull to other members.

Thanks
Anthony Loera


List it as "Brand B"; no mention of what;s its name.

#422 Anthony_Loera

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 12:49 AM

Brand B....

I like it!

Will probably do that then sometime tomorrow...

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 02:34 AM

Brand B....

I like it!

Will probably do that then sometime tomorrow...


If it were Brand y we could drink it.....

#424 Anthony_Loera

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 04:06 PM

He...

If we are on the same page...I don't think that one (brand y) is out yet.
brand b added.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 04:50 PM

I don't know if this is the right place, but might as well be since it is about resveratrol pricing.

Anthony,
I was going to order the RevGenetics X500 (100 capsules) from your site but as I was putting my order through I noticed that you charge $132.5 dollars for international orders. Now there is $24.1 difference compared to the US price ($108.4). And this is not due to shipping as that is still added to the $132 (another $20 or so, which in itself sounds about right).

Now I realize this is not that much, and I am still probably going to order, but I'm curious what is the basis for the extra $24.1 added to the international orders?

Edited by ceth, 25 January 2008 - 04:55 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 05:09 PM

I don't know if this is the right place, but might as well be since it is about resveratrol pricing.

Anthony,
I was going to order the RevGenetics X500 (100 capsules) from your site but as I was putting my order through I noticed that you charge $132.5 dollars for international orders. Now there is $24.1 difference compared to the US price ($108.4). And this is not due to shipping as that is still added to the $132 (another $20 or so, which in itself sounds about right).

Now I realize this is not that much, and I am still probably going to order, but I'm curious what is the basis for the extra $24.1 added to the international orders?



Hi ceth,

I will have that updated soon, I didn't realize that page was not updated.
All our pricing should be the same throughout the website, the only difference should be shipping charges.

thanks for the heads up.
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 09:33 PM

Still haven't received my order from Vitalprime. Grrrr. Just talked to them though and the order was shipped on Wednesday the 23rd... Mmm... two week processing time (ordered on the 9th) just thought you guys could use the info.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 10:27 PM

Just spoke with the Vitalprime guy. Apparently, when I ordered the product, he had just put it on his website and it was still on order on his end. Once he got his shipment in he sent it to be analyzed at an independent lab. He was hoping to have those results back before he shipped the orders, however he still hasn't gotten the results from the independent lab back so he decided to go ahead and ship the orders rather than have people wait any longer. He says when the results come in he will mail all of the people who ordered previously from him a copy.

Note, he did say that the product passed their inhouse lab testing for 99% pure t-res.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 10:33 PM

Note Also: When asked why his prices were so low he says he has a great source, direct from the manufacturer and is buying in 100 to 200 kilo lots and not marking up the product very much (obviously he is looking to make his money from volume since the demand for a low priced quality product is so high). He has low overhead and can do this. Sounds great for us the consumers.

Edited by edward, 25 January 2008 - 10:34 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 11:07 PM

deleted-answered my own question.

Edited by missminni, 25 January 2008 - 11:25 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 11:14 PM

Note Also: When asked why his prices were so low he says he has a great source, direct from the manufacturer and is buying in 100 to 200 kilo lots and not marking up the product very much (obviously he is looking to make his money from volume since the demand for a low priced quality product is so high). He has low overhead and can do this. Sounds great for us the consumers.


I also talked to him Ed. He has his own HPLC but he admitted to not knowing very much at HPLC instruments. So those results are based on his own experimentation.

He sent me a few grams to test for FREE so I hope to have results for this supplier also

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 12:32 AM

Hi Everyone,

James from Biotivia asked us to stop putting his products on the list that is hosted on our website:

Anthony,
Please remove all mention of Biotvia and its products from your web
site. You are misrepresenting our products. Regards, James

Anthony, did James say in what way you were misrepresenting his products? Aren't you just reporting whatever quantity of resveratrol and price that Biotivia claims? It doesn't really make much sense.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 07:51 AM

Interesting, I just discovered there is a Resveratrol Supplement manufactured by Olympian Labs that contains NO Resveratrol!
See this link on ebay item number 190173540464 for and read the product contents:



http://cgi.ebay.com/...em=190173540464


OLYMPIAN LABS' Clinical Resveratrol
product OL30370311


Anthony do you to add this item to your RSV list?

#434 Anthony_Loera

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 03:16 PM

This sort of stuff is sad... I may put this product in to let people know it has none...

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 03:22 PM

Hi Everyone,

James from Biotivia asked us to stop putting his products on the list that is hosted on our website:

Anthony,
Please remove all mention of Biotvia and its products from your web
site. You are misrepresenting our products. Regards, James

Anthony, did James say in what way you were misrepresenting his products? Aren't you just reporting whatever quantity of resveratrol and price that Biotivia claims? It doesn't really make much sense.


Hi niner,
Nope he didn't say... I think he just wanted a reason to be taken off the list. And yes, the list only reports resveratrol content and price in a product, I was told early on by the directors here on the board to keep it unbiased and report the facts on that sheet to keep this thread alive.

Products on the list move up/down depending on pricing changes, quality shown on the label or COA, etc.

A

#436 maxwatt

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 03:32 PM

This sort of stuff is sad... I may put this product in to let people know it has none...


The price per gram is going to be kind of high, don't you think? :)

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 05:57 AM

Anthony,

Looking at your spreadsheet, I see that you list your price per gram for powder based on a $15,000 purchase. Am I reading that correctly? This would seem like wholesale pricing going up against retail pricing. Wouldn't your lower-quantity prices be more realistic, and more fair to publish?

Another question. Why is there such a large gap in your quantity discounts? $188 to $1,200. Your pricing is certainly your own business, but I for one would like to see something fill that gap.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 06:01 AM

This sort of stuff is sad... I may put this product in to let people know it has none...


The price per gram is going to be kind of high, don't you think? :)

Ha Ha. The stuff does contain "Deer Antler Velvet", so depending on the deer's diet, there might be a few parts per quadrillion resveratrol in there.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 06:13 AM

This sort of stuff is sad... I may put this product in to let people know it has none...


The price per gram is going to be kind of high, don't you think? :)

Ha Ha. The stuff does contain "Deer Antler Velvet", so depending on the deer's diet, there might be a few parts per quadrillion resveratrol in there.


I've been looking for a good source of Dear Antler Velvet, the Park Ranger recently banned me from shaving the local deer, besides they really don't like it much.

Seriously though I would never buy anything that had such a ludicrous unproven supplement like Deer Antler Velvet in it, big red flag.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 01:46 PM

This sort of stuff is sad... I may put this product in to let people know it has none...


The price per gram is going to be kind of high, don't you think? :)

Ha Ha. The stuff does contain "Deer Antler Velvet", so depending on the deer's diet, there might be a few parts per quadrillion resveratrol in there.


I've been looking for a good source of Dear Antler Velvet, the Park Ranger recently banned me from shaving the local deer, besides they really don't like it much.

Seriously though I would never buy anything that had such a ludicrous unproven supplement like Deer Antler Velvet in it, big red flag.


Everybody knows deer antler only works if it's freeze dried a few minutes after the deer sheds his antler. I know, because LEF said so when they started selling velvet deer antler.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 04:07 PM

Anthony,

Looking at your spreadsheet, I see that you list your price per gram for powder based on a $15,000 purchase. Am I reading that correctly? This would seem like wholesale pricing going up against retail pricing. Wouldn't your lower-quantity prices be more realistic, and more fair to publish?

Another question. Why is there such a large gap in your quantity discounts? $188 to $1,200. Your pricing is certainly your own business, but I for one would like to see something fill that gap.



We do some custom pricing depending on amounts purchased, we don't usually post them. Email me if you are interested in specific quantities.
A

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 05:42 PM

Moved my question to the:

Maximizing Resveratrol Effectiveness, How/when to take?

Topic

Edited by bixbyte, 29 January 2008 - 03:51 AM.


#443 Anthony_Loera

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 05:57 PM

Should this last post go to another thread?

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 06:20 PM

Anthony,

Looking at your spreadsheet, I see that you list your price per gram for powder based on a $15,000 purchase. Am I reading that correctly? This would seem like wholesale pricing going up against retail pricing. Wouldn't your lower-quantity prices be more realistic, and more fair to publish?

Another question. Why is there such a large gap in your quantity discounts? $188 to $1,200. Your pricing is certainly your own business, but I for one would like to see something fill that gap.



We do some custom pricing depending on amounts purchased, we don't usually post them. Email me if you are interested in specific quantities.
A


Anthony,

The custom pricing I was referring to would be somewhat more than 188 and less than 1200. My real question is, why would you consider this to be "custom" pricing? Why not make this available to everyone?

Also, can you comment on the $15,000 pricing, and how you see that as belonging in a retail price list? I assume that list was meant to be a retail list, as you pull competitors prices from their retail websites. Your site is somewhat unusual, in that it seems directed at consumers, yet has pricing, ($15,000) which clearly seems to be a wholesale level. Very very few could/would consume $15,000 worth of the substance on their own.

Why not substitute your $188 pricing in the spreadsheet? Even $1200 pricing seems to involve to large a quantity. Many of your competitors have quantity discounts, but the quantities involved fall between your $188 and $1200 pricing.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 06:25 PM

One thing, perhaps off topic. I haven't seen, (at least I don't think I've seen) a Megaresveratrol principal issuing tit-for-tat- press releases (or posts) aimed at a competitor. And these press releases/posts are getting tiring. To me that seems a very professional way of doing business, and IMO, is indicative of confidence in his product. I am going to take a closer look.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 06:45 PM

One thing, perhaps off topic. I haven't seen, (at least I don't think I've seen) a Megaresveratrol principal issuing tit-for-tat- press releases (or posts) aimed at a competitor. And these press releases/posts are getting tiring. To me that seems a very professional way of doing business, and IMO, is indicative of confidence in his product. I am going to take a closer look.


Definitely not off topic. Personally I have benefited from the blow by blow account of Resveratrol pricing and I think the "Resveratrol Market" probably has also. The more we encourage Resveratrol suppliers to A. Prove that their product is what they say it is with an independent COA and B. Then lower prices to the bare minimum to maintain profitability, the more we benefit. Personally I buy the cheapest product (price per gram) for the price range (volume) per order that I am looking at. Previously Revgenetics and Megaresveratrol have had the cheapest depending on if you wanted 100 grams or 60 grams and depending on when you ordered.

Now though, once the COA from the independent lab Vitalprime is using comes back, it will be a whole new ballgame, as I suspect it will come back testing out at 99% trans. Apparently this COA should be arriving anytime this week as will my order from them.

edit:.... then things will get interesting

Edited by edward, 27 January 2008 - 06:50 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2008 - 07:07 PM

Edward, You are exactly right. I have greatly appreciated this pricing discussion. I must commend the the customer responsiveness of all the t-res suppliers that I have purchased product from: Longevinex, Biotivia, Megaresveratrol and now Vital Prime regarding answering questions by email & providing product data. I do agree with the Vital Prime pricing that we have now witnessed a paradigm shift in providing t-res to the market. I just ordered 500 g of the Vital Prime product, but will wait for the independent lab results promised to me before supplementing.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 07:22 PM

One thing, perhaps off topic. I haven't seen, (at least I don't think I've seen) a Megaresveratrol principal issuing tit-for-tat- press releases (or posts) aimed at a competitor. And these press releases/posts are getting tiring. To me that seems a very professional way of doing business, and IMO, is indicative of confidence in his product. I am going to take a closer look.


Definitely not off topic. Personally I have benefited from the blow by blow account of Resveratrol pricing and I think the "Resveratrol Market" probably has also. The more we encourage Resveratrol suppliers to A. Prove that their product is what they say it is with an independent COA and B. Then lower prices to the bare minimum to maintain profitability, the more we benefit. Personally I buy the cheapest product (price per gram) for the price range (volume) per order that I am looking at. Previously Revgenetics and Megaresveratrol have had the cheapest depending on if you wanted 100 grams or 60 grams and depending on when you ordered.

Now though, once the COA from the independent lab Vitalprime is using comes back, it will be a whole new ballgame, as I suspect it will come back testing out at 99% trans. Apparently this COA should be arriving anytime this week as will my order from them.

edit:.... then things will get interesting


I enjoy the pricing discussion for sure. Just not the back biting that goes on.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 09:13 PM

Anthony,

Do you have this pricing listed on your spreadsheet? I can't seem to find it:

http://www.megaresve...holesale_p.html

$1.06 a gram, 99% powder.

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 09:29 PM

Anthony,

The custom pricing I was referring to would be somewhat more than 188 and less than 1200. My real question is, why would you consider this to be "custom" pricing? Why not make this available to everyone?

Also, can you comment on the $15,000 pricing, and how you see that as belonging in a retail price list? I assume that list was meant to be a retail list, as you pull competitors prices from their retail websites. Your site is somewhat unusual, in that it seems directed at consumers, yet has pricing, ($15,000) which clearly seems to be a wholesale level. Very very few could/would consume $15,000 worth of the substance on their own.

Why not substitute your $188 pricing in the spreadsheet? Even $1200 pricing seems to involve to large a quantity. Many of your competitors have quantity discounts, but the quantities involved fall between your $188 and $1200 pricing.


The price breaks are calculated between the 100gram and 1kg pricing. I guess I can add them at each 100gram increment to the list? RevGenetics would be repeated alot on the list just because of a new price break shown... I don't mind adding these repeated throughout the powder section, if you don't mind.... let me know.

Regarding the $15,000 pricing for 99%, I'll take that off as most personal kilo purchases are between 1kg and 5kg anyway, no problem.


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