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#1 treonsverdery

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:46 PM


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Carbohydrates are linked to glycemic response which is linked to illness http://www.lef.org/m...ycemic response
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Time to reenginer the worlds most popular foods to have minimal glycemic response
Food should be cheap, plentiful as well as delicious also longevity producing. From what I read reducing glycemic response of the most frequently eaten foods is likely to prevent a third or more of the worlds cardiovascular disease as well as cancer.


Noodles Grains naturally contain materials like glycans as well as fiber that reduce the velocity of digestion which causes less glycemic response Thus just concentrating glycans or fiber from grain then using these as two layers with noodle material between them gradualizes absorption, reducing glycemic response. Retaining a normal noodle surface during noodle extrusion creates a laminar structure that gradualizes digestion thus reducing glycemic response with the same actual surface flavor as noodles. It is possible that alkalizing (raising the pH of) these laminates would also create more gradualized digestion Polydextrose or polysucrose although sugars are polymers that could be used to create the gradualization layer as well.

Bread most of the surface area of bread that causes digestion velocity is from the microbubbles that yeast produce The yeast could actually produce a natural polymer like Polydextrose or polylactic acid that coated the microbubbles to gradualize digestion or much simpler just make bread then immerse it with glycans or soluble fiber then make bread with again, most of the orginal microcontours will remain yet be coated with digestion gradualizing natural material that occurs at grain. A fairly impressive technology would be supercritical CO2 that brings dissolved edible polymer like polydextrose or polylactic acid to the bread as microstriations. Another technology is simply to swirl a delicious tasting natural digestion gradualizer into the bread such that the microlaminoids are less than a mm to gradualize digestion Amazingly something like DHA oil could do this creating an IQ increasing bread that reduces heart disease as well as cancer

Breakfast cereals as extruded products these have similarities to noodles with the hyperporosity making something like CO2 or possibly CH4 solvated things like polydextrose, polylactic acid, glycans or natural fibers all digestion gradualizers possible as materialplaced far from the taste contact surface

Milk as well as cheese Milk when homogenized has the lipids gather then passed through channels to microsize the lipid globules, it is possible that having the milk go through a membrane (as is accomplished with wine now) to migrate the sugars gives a way to concentrate the sugar water which is then blended with the oil to create a durable mousse, the mousse is then channeled to homogenize the sugars with the lipids surrounding the sugars with lipids causes them to digest more gradually. Another approach is to use an enzyme other than lactase to create a milk with regular or better sweetness with minimal glycemic response producing sugars. Also rather incredibly milk producing mammals could graze on natural plants that produce chemicals more than 100,000 times sweeter than sugar like thaumatin or monellin. Milk color varies with time of year as a result of food, thus it is possible naturally sweetened milk producer foods could create milk where research verifies that an enzyme or a membrane process reoptimizes sugars to show reduced disease at lab mammals. It is possible that a flavorized kefir based on LKM512 a bacteria that causes dairy products to produce greater longevity would have less glycemic response as well

Any kind of food chip edible chips could be printed with a halftone of polylactic acid or another natural gradualizer with the halftone effect lighter near the mouth approach areas to optimize natural flavor. The chip could then be coated with pringlesish goop to give an all taste preferred effect. A laminoid effect would gradualize digestion as many chips are also extruded or planarized from a moosh. Many chips have oil, which could possibly be sonically vibrated to the surface to improve flavor while reducing calories

Sucrose ultramicrobubbles of sugar that are kind of “instantnesteaoid” could have ultramicrostriations of lecithin or possibly an edible version of tween 20 so they had superior sweetness at mouth contact. With sugar there is the possibility of blending actual sugar with a sucralose metformin dimer molecule that basically combines a proven sweetener with a proven glycemic response reductipon chemical that also causes lab mammals to live 20 to 30something pct longer. Thus less sugar could be used while the sugar used had as much metformin as would cause the food to be a nonglycemic response food. Another kind of sweetener would be an artificial protein that was absent the amino acids alanine as well as glutamine thus had minimal gluconeogenesis Noting that chicken is sort of flavorless even though it is made up of amino acids as peptides forming proteins a pure protein powder that is sweet like sucrose at the same volume creates a sweetener that is a nutritionally complete food while being useful as an optional thing to put at drinks or recipes Things like monellin or thaumatin although they have a few alanine or glutamine amino acids are 100,000 times sweeter than sugar suggesting that flavorless protein sweetened with sweet proteins could replace sugar.

Sweetened fizzy drinks Creating gelid microblobs with an edible ultra gooper then hypersweetening the fluid between them would cause a sloshable fluid with .1mm or smaller microblobs with as sweet or even sweeter tasting fluid taste while supporting fizziness from the actual fluid volume. Apparently drinking one 12 oz soda causes a 20 pct higher risk of having a heart attack that day so as silly as it sounds something that tastes better than soda that is minimally glycemic response producing could benefit large numbers of people. I think a splenda at a sugar soda Makes it taste better this could produce a similar or more delicious flavor.

Tubers confocal lasers could meet mid-tuber or mid tuber product to modify the material to be more gradually digested. It is also possible CO2 processes could migrate polylactic acid to depth at the tuber product it is remotely possible that simultaneous sonication of a tuber could create fractal microvoids hus pulling the polylactic acid or other material to depth. They could see if laserbeaded potato shapes with full surface normality yet gradualization coated channels could have more gradualized digestion as well as fewer calories

Rice Lasers could create a dovetail surface form (narrow channel deep groove) on the rice surface where most of the channelization occurred away from the flavor surface thus keeping the rice flavor surface normal glycans, fiber or polylactic acid would fill the channels gradualizing the rate of digestion of the rice. Rice is the most glycemic response producing food at a large national database, notably higher than actually just eating pure glucose. Modified rices like instant rices could of course use supercritical CO2 to migrate materials to the rice core or possibly new flavor forms could be created where a beneficial lipid was actually migrated to the core which would cause deliciousness on preparation while gradualizing digestion My perception is that most rice grains are gulped with numerous surfaces tasted thus a normal surface retaining process could create the same flavor. Making rice into beads with a laser would bizarrely leave full surface flavor while reducing calories if the core channel were then natural polymer coated it could gradualize digestion as well

Ice Cream microsphere ice cream is already available thus millifioring that with hypersweetness between the areas could create an even more delicious lickable material with fewer calories it is possible that licking direction could be an amusing way to effect flavor

w & ws multicore or atomic nucleus product fill could strongly tend to divide certain ways on compression thus causing the areas on the sides of the multicore nucleus to be predictably be flavor surfaces permitting greater flavor intensification at those areas at product making another approach is to create a kind of digital halvah that when apportioned to make w & ws could be sonicated to have predictably delicious planes of division While still being delicious on savored actual full gradual dissolve as well as brief compression then gulp eating Concentrating flavor at areas of division permits either fewer calories or blending a gradual dissolve polymer with the area less likely to be at taste surfaces

What about a popular meal?
McDonalds has more than hundreds of Billions of meals eaten. The glycemic response of Laser modified potato shapes, with a natural glycan coated bun, as well as a fizzy drink that tastes better than coke or pepsi yet is gelid microblobs coated with flavor at a slurry creates vastly less glycemic response. One study notes that after a meal, a high glycemic meal is 91 pct more likely to happen two hours before a heart attack. Its millions of heart attacks averted.

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Edited by treonsverdery, 11 April 2013 - 10:18 PM.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:11 AM

Insulin and glucose is not the problem in metabolic-syndrome… it’s the resistance to (or inability of the body to use) these substances. The bulk of the data condemns high-fat diets for causing insulin-resistance and glucose-intolerance. Triglycerides and free-fatty-acids interfere with, and inhibit insulin signaling. Free-fatty-acids also infiltrate the liver and damage beta-cells in the pancreas, which then impairs the secretion of insulin, leading to an overall insulin-deficiency at the cellular level.

Edited by misterE, 12 April 2013 - 03:19 AM.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 05:09 PM

Insulin and glucose is not the problem in metabolic-syndrome… it’s the resistance to (or inability of the body to use) these substances. The bulk of the data condemns high-fat diets for causing insulin-resistance and glucose-intolerance. Triglycerides and free-fatty-acids interfere with, and inhibit insulin signaling. Free-fatty-acids also infiltrate the liver and damage beta-cells in the pancreas, which then impairs the secretion of insulin, leading to an overall insulin-deficiency at the cellular level.


MisterE. Please try to focus on the reality for most people. Most people eat too many refined processed carbs, as you have pointed out many times, and this is a big part of the obesity epidemic. What is being discussed here is to make healthier versions of twinkies, chips, noodles, various junk foods, and it is a good idea. It would be great if more people just started eating slower-digesting carbs, like you advocate, but they won't. Making a bit healthier "junk food", would be a step in the right direction, and probably a big money-maker for budding entrepreneurs.
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Posted 12 April 2013 - 10:05 PM

MisterE. Please try to focus on the reality for most people. Most people eat too many refined processed carbs, as you have pointed out many times, and this is a big part of the obesity epidemic. What is being discussed here is to make healthier versions of twinkies, chips, noodles, various junk foods, and it is a good idea. It would be great if more people just started eating slower-digesting carbs, like you advocate, but they won't. Making a bit healthier "junk food", would be a step in the right direction, and probably a big money-maker for budding entrepreneurs.


Junk foods: like cookies, pastries, and simple-sugars are not healthy, everyone here agrees with that. But a lot of people on this forum take that message and run with it. They then begin to tell people not to eat other healthy high-glycemic carbohydrates in general, even vital foods like potatoes and whole-grains (which are high-GI). Both sugar and starch induce insulin-secretion, but that isn’t an issue. The issue with simple-sugars and refined-carbohydrates is that they trigger de-novo-lipogenesis (DNL), thus about 50% of the calories in sugar are converted into triglycerides, and this doesn’t happen with high-fiber complex-carbohydrates. However since simple-sugars and processed-carbohydrates are able to convert into fat (via DNL), which then contributes to obesity and insulin-resistance… eating foods high in fat (like cheese, beef, eggs or oil) will also contribute to obesity and insulin-resistance, because you are eating premade fat.



Everyone here agrees that sugar is bad. But it is only bad because 50% of the energy (from the fructose fraction) converts into saturated-fat. Many folks on this forum believe that saturated-fat is harmless, which is concerning. The solution is to eat low-sugar and low-fat, and to increase intakes of fiber and starch, that is how you correctly cure insulin-resistance at the cellular-level.

Edited by misterE, 12 April 2013 - 10:05 PM.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 09:14 PM

I think this is a great idea but it's my understanding that the root of the problem is surplus sugar that the body doesn't have a use for. Steady physical activity mitigates some/all of this problem.

Maybe someone has a study link to back me up on that.

If you're trimming trees all day you don't have to worry about eating a banana. :laugh:

If you're sitting in front of a computer all day high-GI is a much bigger problem.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:26 PM

Happy Baby foods It looks like preparationless instant baby foods like oatmeal or rice would have a high glycemic ndex. I did not find much data online although the glycemic index of instant rice is 87 while that of table sugar is 87. It looks as though instant babyfood cereals have a higher glycemic ndex than sugar. I think that could effect mood. Thus if they do EEG, photonic brain scanning, as well as video or audio of baby behavior then measure calmness as well as smiling they may find a glycemic index effect on behavior. Everybody loves babies so it is time to make babies happy. Creating a modified glycemic index baby food from completely natural ingredients could be as simple as gathering natural barley glycans (goop) then coating part of the instant baby food with a micropattern would create a baby food with a different glycemic index. Then these new foods would be measured as to emotional effect.

Gerber, a baby food company, has responded to physician criticism of high glycemic foods with a statement supporting further research. This research would permit Gerber to create a baby food with reduced glycemic response that could actually be published at peer reviewed journals as improving emotional affect.

This is different than a "glycemic response is bad" approach to baby food. It is a do babies respond emotionally to glycemic index? If so, then lets make baby foods that make babies happier


Physics enthusiasts will be amused or perhaps urged to action as a result of pondering the MWI, which about half of a group of noted physicists supported during a 20th century survey. http://en.wikipedia...._interpretation The MWI suggests that if you can cause a person to have a better future, such as making babies happier, then about 10^42 branches each second from that improvement function throughout a vast multiplicity of human lives occur. Branches from branches suggest that this effect is particularly strong when applied as early as possible, thus the chronosubsequence of beneficial baby foods is plausibly of great meaning.

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Edited by treonsverdery, 19 April 2013 - 05:31 PM.


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:00 PM

I'm not sure if babies/infants need foods to be low glycemic. They are either physically active or rapidly growing or BOTH 24 hours a day.

45 year old network engineers who sit in front of computers all day are the people who need low glycemic foods.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:32 AM

I'm not sure if babies/infants need foods to be low glycemic. They are either physically active or rapidly growing or BOTH 24 hours a day.

45 year old network engineers who sit in front of computers all day are the people who need low glycemic foods.

And yet we have an epidemic of obese 6 month olds...

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:03 PM

I'm not sure if babies/infants need foods to be low glycemic. They are either physically active or rapidly growing or BOTH 24 hours a day.

45 year old network engineers who sit in front of computers all day are the people who need low glycemic foods.


They grow a lot for sure, but my kid would NOT get such a high glycemic index food. There have got to be much better choices out there.

I think this is a great idea but it's my understanding that the root of the problem is surplus sugar that the body doesn't have a use for. Steady physical activity mitigates some/all of this problem.

Maybe someone has a study link to back me up on that.

If you're trimming trees all day you don't have to worry about eating a banana. :laugh:

If you're sitting in front of a computer all day high-GI is a much bigger problem.


Exercise and aging. A good discussion about the very powerful effects of exercise.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:31 PM

They grow a lot for sure, but my kid would NOT get such a high glycemic index food. There have got to be much better choices out there.


I completely agree that processed foods are 100%, unhealthy garbage. But IMHO natural, unprocessed foods like bananas and apples are healthy for kids even if they have sugar in them.

Maybe we're all in agreement and I'm missing something. :laugh:

Edited by DR01D, 20 April 2013 - 02:31 PM.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:53 AM

Here is an idea
suggest a food,

then you or I could suggest a reengineered less glycemic version

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 12:18 AM

from the onion http://www.theonion....-thought,32180/

I consider myself a regular duck. I float around the pond, I waddle through the park, I fly south for the winter, and every so often I get to thinking about eating some bread. Sure, we all enjoy the occasional daydream about some nice old man sitting on a bench tossing us sandwich crust after sandwich crust, but I’ve gotta say, recently I’ve been having some really fucked-up bread thoughts.

You can read on if you want, but I’m warning you, this is some seriously depraved stuff I’m talking about here.

I can’t even begin to tell you how many times I’ve found myself in the middle of one of these weird, vivid fantasies about all kinds of bread—wheat, white, pumpernickel, French, you name it—sometimes even two or three different types of bread at once. No matter how much I try to distract myself by diving underwater or preening my plumage, it seems like every thought that runs through my head ends with me covered in crumbs and bill-deep in a bakery-fresh Kaiser roll.

Just the other night I had this intense, twisted dream where I found a big moldy baguette sticking out of a muddy riverbank. It was caked in dirt and ants and must have been sitting there for weeks, but did I care? No, I didn’t give two fucks. I was raring to go to town on that filthy loaf, but I didn’t just jump in—no, I savored it. First slowly—very slowly—and then faster and faster until I was gulping down green, rotten bites as fast as I could get them into my craw, ravaging the thing like there was no tomorrow.

Well, here is a way to reduce the risky carbs linked to that snack. first, I think that fermenting bread with an organism that actually improves its flavor could create a milder glycemic response.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 11:40 AM

Well, here is a way to reduce the risky carbs linked to that snack. first, I think that fermenting bread with an organism that actually improves its flavor could create a milder glycemic response.

Like sourdough bread?

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:54 PM

Food goops as well as sauces reengineered to be longevity as well as wellness beneficial

Sauces as well as goops at prepared foods are a reduced glycemic index better quality flavor opportunity. Creating cheap goop that actually is beneficial would cause food producers to migrate towards the new ingredient if it is cheaper as well as more appealing appealing to consumers.

I have noticed that acid hydrolysis of nondigestible high mer length polystarch makes a gel, so it is possible that something like powdered straw, with acid hydrolysis to make it gooey, then blended with haloxylitol as well as actual sugar, with metformin would create a calorie as well as glycemic response minimized material with longevizing effects that is cheaper than many forms of food starch, as powdered straw at a tenth to 2/3 of the volume might be very cheap.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:40 PM

Ribose is a delicious sweetener that is described as actually reducing blood sugar. http://www.bioenergy...ence 070303.pdf soda pop makers could blend ribose with sucrose to create an actual sugar zero glycemic response response drink.

If they went with all ribose or ribose sucralose they could create a super delicious soda drink that as it actually reduces glycemic response, may give greater longevity to lab mammals as well as prevent cancer.


From the link
Earlier results showing an effect of ribose on blood glucose led investigators to consider the possible role of ribose in treating diabetes. The first such study was conducted in 1959 by Bierman, et al.4 using four mildly- and four severely diabetic patients. Researchers infused 40- to 50-grams of ribose into subjects over one hour following an overnight fast and from whom insulin had been withheld for a period of 24-hours prior to ribose administration. The study found that blood glucose fell in seven of the eight subjects (average 21 ± 11%), with minimum glucose levels reached in one to three hours from initiation of the infusion.

I was just thinking, "they should find out what all the combinatorial varieties of sweet tasting carbohydrate molecules do physiologically to see if there areany that are actually beneficial." I think they should try that perhaps doing even better than ribose.

It would be awesome to see a study comparing ribose to metformin, as well as both, as to longevity effect.


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