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[newguy5]

I've been taking perika for 2 months now, it does seem like it lifts my mood but it's nothing dramatic. It makes me feel very tired if I take it during the day, too tired, so I usually take 2 before going to bed and seem to have some effects the next day even if I don't take 1 that day.
I want to try the kira brand to see if that works better, now my questions.

Can I take it right after stopping perika or do I need to wait a couple of days?

Perika took 5 weeks for me to notice any effect, will this be the same thing with kira or will it work right away since some st johns wort is already preloaded in my brain? I don't really feel like stopping the perika, feeling crap again for 6 weeks until the kira works, and there's also the chance that it will not work.

Can you take both together or alternate ?

Give me some advice. thanks.

[datrat]

Yep, you can start taking kira right away, no washout period needed. Everyone responds differently, but theoretically, you shouldn't need to worry about a start-up phase. And, yes you can take them together, at least based on my own and other anecdotal reports. I've never seen any warnings about combining different sjw products.

[protoject]

They are practically the same thing (besides some difference in hypericin/hyperforin content im guessing). These are not 2 different drugs that will interact with eachother. It's the exact same plant. So I concur with datrat on all his points, also that you;ve already preloaded and wouldnt be starting up a new phase. Of course be aware that if you take both at the same time there will be additive effect. Though I'm sure you weren't planning to do that.

[BlueCloud]

Perika and Kira have different ratios of hypericin/hyperforin. I've tried them both in the past and Kira was distinctively more anxiolytic ( paradoxally, it also increased my insomnia..), while Perika was more stimulating. You can safely switch from one to the other , I did the same thing.
I'm not sure it's such a good idea to take both at the same time, since they have opposing effect. You should choose based on what kind of effect you're looking for ( more energy/stimulation-Perika vs less anxiety/more calming effect-Kira )

[newguy5]

From what I've read kira isn't made anymore but it seems like you can still get them in Europe(i'm from europe), found them on some dutch sites but I'm wondering if it's the same thing.

http://www.deonlined...ten-p-5526.html

[TheFountain]

I tried them both about 3-4 years ago for periods of 6 months to 2 years. 

 

I noticed that Perika did induce more tiredness in me but not debilitating tiredness. I am guessing this was the serotonin effect. I can't tell whether or not Kira had much of a different effect, I think I took Kira for only 6 months. 

 

At some point I stopped taking both of them due to potential sun sensitivity. 

 

I am considering starting perika again or just going with Ashwagandha  (or both, stacked) since I read that Ashwagandha has similar cortisol regulating effects as holy basil, except in a more subtle and less tiring way.