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#1 christianbber

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 01:33 AM


I've finally narrowed down my diet to find what was causing my to go almost brain dead....zombie like in the evening.

The days I have eggs in the morning...... by the afternoon/night I can't think at all.

Yet days without eggs or foods high in choline. I'm cognitively fine all day.

I thought you needed choline in your diet ??

#2 Baten

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 09:54 AM

The choline in eggs isn't all that significant, though.. I would find it hard to believe that it could make one zombie-like.

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#3 TheFountain

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 12:04 AM

The choline in eggs isn't all that significant, though.. I would find it hard to believe that it could make one zombie-like.


That's not true at all. The current recommended daily intake is around 500 mgs for grown men, one egg contains about 110 mgs of choline. You eat 4 eggs a day and that equals quite adequate choline numbers. I myself eat about 6 eggs a day, so I get a little over the recommended intake (as per national academy of science).

Edited by TheFountain, 24 October 2011 - 12:05 AM.


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Posted 24 October 2011 - 01:10 AM

I can't find a link at the moment, but I believe choline is anti-dopaminergic. I feel very lethargic after breakfast and I just realized that the culprit is probably the two eggs, so you're not alone.

Edited by rwac, 24 October 2011 - 01:10 AM.


#5 Baten

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:53 AM

That's not true at all. The current recommended daily intake is around 500 mgs for grown men, one egg contains about 110 mgs of choline.


Oh wow, thanks for correcting me. That is indeed a significant ammount of choline.
I personally never eat more than 2 eggs though, maybe 3 at max. If you are very sensitive to choline changes,
I guess you best keep it at max 1 egg every meal.

#6 TheFountain

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 01:05 PM

That's not true at all. The current recommended daily intake is around 500 mgs for grown men, one egg contains about 110 mgs of choline.


Oh wow, thanks for correcting me. That is indeed a significant ammount of choline.
I personally never eat more than 2 eggs though, maybe 3 at max. If you are very sensitive to choline changes,
I guess you best keep it at max 1 egg every meal.


Well do you eat beef? Because that contains about the same amount per serving as eggs, maybe slightly less, like 90 mgs.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 06:56 PM

I can't find a link at the moment, but I believe choline is anti-dopaminergic. I feel very lethargic after breakfast and I just realized that the culprit is probably the two eggs, so you're not alone.

The fat in eggs makes me lethargic, but after the cholesterol is filtered, I can think like I've had 10 hours of sleep. Taking lecithin gives me great cognition and clarity without the slump. It cures sleep-deprived vertigo, and it even helps me focus. I honestly have not seen any evidence of eating natural forms of choline causing a decrease in dopaminergic activity. In fact, I see the opposite.

AChE inhibitors are a completely different story, which upset the methylation and citric acid cycle.

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 09:46 PM

There´s a big difference in massproduced eggs and ecological eggs. Ecological eggs tend to have better nutritional values so its hard to determine how much choline you are getting. The best option would be to send your eggs for analysis.

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 06:32 PM

There´s a big difference in massproduced eggs and ecological eggs. Ecological eggs tend to have better nutritional values so its hard to determine how much choline you are getting. The best option would be to send your eggs for analysis.


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#10 MrHappy

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 09:32 PM

I have to agree.. I am lucky enough that I get fresh, well cared for, free-range eggs from my parents' farm. They get fed well balanced diets and even certain herbs.

You eat those for any length of time and then try eating store-bought eggs - even the supposedly organic free-range ones tastes like sickness and sadness.. Just..Yuck.

Edited by MrHappy, 26 October 2011 - 09:33 PM.






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