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#1 Young Paul

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:54 AM


Anyone know what could be the cause of my allergy. I get urticaria, itching after consuming the following:

wine (red and white)
beer
coffee
decaffeinated coffee
tea
green tea
mint tea
malted barley and chicory drink
chocolate
brewers yeast tablets


ps. a day later I get very dry flakey skin on my face (black tea seems worse)

I have a feeling it maybe tannin. thanks in advance

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 04:05 AM

You are lucky that you have identified the culprits. The cause may just be that you are allergic/sensitive or intolerant of those foods and have to avoid them. There are tannins, sulfites, caffeine, salicylates and alcohol in some of those things but it varies. Decafinated coffee does contain some caffeine. I can't see one thread in all those things. I ran a support group for people with allergies for ten years.

Urticaria can be cause by undigested proteins entering the bloodstream but many of those foods don't really contain proteins.

The main thing is to avoid things you are allergic to and take good care of yourself. MSM, collagen and vitamin C may help lessen your allergies over time. You can see my recommendations here for how to take them:

http://www.longecity...__fromsearch__1

Source Naturals plain powder in a good brand of MSM.

It must be hard to avoid red wine in Spain but you are lucky to know what bothers you so you can avoid it. Allergies do not have to have a common feature.

Edited by Luminosity, 06 April 2012 - 04:07 AM.


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#3 Young Paul

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 12:24 PM

thanks for your help. Not just red wine, all the list is delicious: chocolate, beer.
Maybe there is a small amount of yeast in the list of food, but even beer such as Estrella Damn which has been filtered twice makes me itch. Curiously I can handle a few cans of the beer Amstel. Red wine is much worse for me than white wine.

when I was 16, I tried to stay awake for a week, I drunk 5 big pots of black tea every night, it worked but I looked like a zombie after 5 days. Maybe this foolish episode is the cause of the sensitivity.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:13 AM

That's possible. Compared to most people's allergens, you have more stimulants and relaxants; mind altering substances. Even mint in a mild way is a stimulant. Maybe your body is getting you back.

Try to resolve to live moderately, listening to your body and not doing extreme things. You can talk to your body and apologize for what you did before. Try to eat good meals and get plenty of sleep, etc.

Red wine has more tannins than white wine and more sulfites too, I think. Tea also has tannins.

I think your body is trying to tell you that you can do all the foolish things you want but it has the final say. Maybe it is also afraid of addiction, possibly from a past life.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 12:55 PM

Thanks Luminosity for your help. I suppose it's not really an allergy because the chemicals in question are not proteins,(except yeast) more like a sensitivity. I'll have to try redbull or caffeine tabs and see if it maybe caffeine plus yeast, or tannin plus yeast. I'll do a special diet for a month and gradually add a substance. I have apologized, that is a good idea and a great message to the subconscious mind. I know a bit about my past life and can rule out a drug addiction.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 10:17 PM

I'm really wondering if your body wants you to consume caffiene or red bull.

Do you mean this life? I meant lives before you were born (reincarnation).

Your allergies/sensitivities have a pattern but not a pattern I ever saw before in ten years of running the allergy support group. We had many people with sensitivities and intolerances and multiple allergies. I think it is your body telling you something.

Your body is like a partner in a marriage. The more you listen and are considerate and sensitive to its needs the better your partnership will be. If it feels betrayed, the more grief you will experience. Like any marriage, if you strayed, actions speak louder than words. Going to the farmer's market and buying vegetables, going for walks, abstaining from stimulants, and getting plenty of sleep will help your relationship with your body to come back into balance.

In Chinese medicine, skin symptoms are yin. Yin disorders are made worse by eating too much cold food and drinks. They are made better by eating more cooked food, warm and room temperature drinks. I don't think that this is the main thing going on here, but it could help in combination with listening to your body.

I think that in three to ten years you could potentially consume small to moderate amounts of the things you are allergic to now if you take really good care of yourself and abstain from those things for now. If you overconsume though, I predict bad consquences.

Edited by Luminosity, 07 April 2012 - 10:19 PM.


#7 Young Paul

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 11:36 AM

hi Luminosity, thanks for your help and information. I did mean past lives. I've done some work on this with deep hypnosis. I'm not really that into stimulants although a strong coffee feels fantastic and helps me to read and study all day long, so I try to keep off it, because of the feeling of being addicted to something, and the side effects. I normally use decaffeinated coffee or a coffee substitute chicory but this makes me itch just the same. I never drink cola or soda because I hate sugar and eat only healthy vegetables, eggs, and meat, no wheat, no milk, no processed foods, and lots of exercise. Lately If I need extra energy I take Resveratrol, mixed with a spoon of rum and take it sublingual, vitamin E and now and again hydergine. I've had this problem for 30 years and had quite a few prick tests and blood tests, but they don't reveal much only a slight allergy to black pepper. I had a blood test for gluten and that was fine.
I wonder if I could do my own prick test at home, with a sharp pin, and some yeast or tannin and see if there's a reaction.
I can drink vodka, rum etc, no problem, but just don't beacuse I don't like strong spirits.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 02:29 AM

Allergy tests aren't reliable. Elimination diets are the gold standard of allergy diagnosis. We don't normally introduce allergens directly into our bloodstreams. I knew someone who tested positive for dog allergies. When they tested specifically for poodles at her request, she wasn't allergic to poodles. She successfully kept poodles for decades. I hope you don't "allergy test" yourself. That could be even more questionable than professional allergy tests. I had the ELISA/ACT allergy test. If you told me that they decided what my allergies were by throwing darts at a dart board, I would believe you. It wasn't accurate.

I'm glad to hear about your healthy lifestyle, although I don't know what hydergine is. (?)

Your allergens are not that hard to avoid. Your symptoms are not life-threatening, at this time. I know a lot of people who would like to trade places with you. Like I said, one option is to avoid those things, build up your health, (like by taking the supplements I recommended, or following Chinese Medicine). Then after a long time, you could try reintroducing those things and taking them lightly and occasionally. In my opinion, traditional allergy treatments are not effective. If you had a really good allergist, he or she would probably tell you what is in this paragraph minus the info about supplements and Chinese medicine.

This is my thread on Chinese medicine:

http://www.longecity...inese-medicine/

Many people with allergies have to adjust and find alternatives, and yes, miss out on some things.

I hope your wish to consume these things is healthy. Only you know that.

Not everyone can take stimulants or alcohol. I understand you can take some alcohol but don't like that kind. This is unusual, but there is a general shape to your allergies that I would hesitate to ignore. There can be hidden weaknesses to your kidneys, veins or heart involved. An M.D. probably will not be able to find these but a good acupuncturist/Chinese herbalist would.

Some alternative products that you might be able to tolerate would be almond milk with carob powder. In the USA Blue Diamond unsweetened vanilla almond milk is good. They also have a new flavor, almond with coconut that is really good. I add a little almond extract to almond milk. You heat it up and then put in a teaspoon of carob powder. You can add a half teaspoon of brandy to make it more warming if you like. Another possibility is Honeybush tea, Rooibos green or red tea (these might contain a small amount of tannins especially the Rooibos, Numi is a good brand for these three), Teechino or teecino, a herbal coffee substitute. It does contain barley and chicory but I think it doesn't have malt and has a much more subtle flavor than the other coffee substitutes. There was one that didn't agree with me but this does. Java is the best flavor.

There is a book called Right Use of Will. Among other things it teaches how to find out why our body does what it does and try to heal it. It's pretty deep. It's no shortcut.

Based on that book I developed a technique where you create a sacred space, however you do that, then you act out the parts of you and your body, like you were enacting an opera. You speak from your point of view about how you feel about your physical limitations. Then you take the part of your body and try to give voice to its feelings about the matter. It's a matter of inner listening and gaining trust. The initial stages might consist of your body not thinking you are really listening and being upset with you. If you have a space where you can yell, or make noise, or hit pillows so much the better. Move around and act like you are in an opera. Then afterward, close however you feel is appropriate, like with a prayer or whatever.

Edited by Luminosity, 10 April 2012 - 02:45 AM.


#9 Young Paul

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:57 AM

Thanks for the info. Hydergine is a nootropic, I seldom use it, but great for studying. I've tried Rooibos tea, it tastes well, but makes me itch. I also bought some tannin free tea bags from new zealand, they made me itch too, the company says it might be yeast. I've tried most coffee substitutes and they also make me itch. I'ts hard to have breakfast with just water, because I don't drink milk or juice because of the sugar and the way they are processed. but as you said Luminosity many would trade places for my allergy, so I'll just have to get by. The almond milk and rice milk in my nearby shops all have extra sugar. Maybe I could try one of those fruit teas. I don't think I have any underlying illness besides the allergy. I've recently had a full check and all is fine, and the allergy started when I was a teen and had it all my life. I'm also allergic to penicillin, which I believe is connected to yeast. If I drink Bovril or Marmite my skin goes very red and itchy, because they contain massive amounts of yeast. My mother told me that when I was young I took some brewers yeast tablets and she took me to the doctor for urticaria, so maybe this was the cause. It's not easy because they put yeast in lots of stuff, and so eating out is difficult too. Well at least I'm going to be healthy eating all this natural fresh food.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:04 AM

Sorry you're dealing with that.





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