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[Luminosity]

This is one of the most intelligent presentation of this subjects I've seen yet. I agree with it.


http://drleonardcold...-healthy-bones/

[Tomas E]

Thanks for sharing, but this has been stated several times, that calcium should be taken with d3vitamin.

[mikeinnaples]

I think adequate magnesium, D3, and K2 are the important things to consider.

[Sartac]

Xylitol ingestion is reported to increase bone density. I seem to recall a fellow who had scans that showed an increase.

and rats,
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/21271323

[MrHappy]

Also, don't forget vitamin C, which helps absorption of the other nutrients. Magnesium also helps keep the calcium out of the muscles and finding its way to your bones.

[Deckah]

Also, don't forget vitamin C, which helps absorption of the other nutrients. Magnesium also helps keep the calcium out of the muscles and finding its way to your bones.

Do you think magnesium timing matters much, as long as it's not taken along side calcium?

[niner]

Do you think magnesium timing matters much, as long as it's not taken along side calcium?

I'm going to guess that it doesn't matter too much, since the formulators of every bone supplement I've ever seen have all chosen to combine magnesium with a calcium source. OTOH, they are both dications, so the idea that they might compete in some way isn't crazy, however, calcium has a whole 'nother electron shell, thus is larger than magnesium. That's an argument for non-competitiveness. My guess is that they don't compete much, but ultimately, the proof is in a combined dosing experiment. Anyone know?

[Luminosity]

Thanks everyone for your participation.

Anyone have a brand of K2 they recommend? Anyone tried Nattokinase? Anyone tried Bronson brands of these?

[rwac]

Thorne liquid k2 is really good.

[Tomas E]

Do you think magnesium timing matters much, as long as it's not taken along side calcium?

I'm going to guess that it doesn't matter too much, since the formulators of every bone supplement I've ever seen have all chosen to combine magnesium with a calcium source. OTOH, they are both dications, so the idea that they might compete in some way isn't crazy, however, calcium has a whole 'nother electron shell, thus is larger than magnesium. That's an argument for non-competitiveness. My guess is that they don't compete much, but ultimately, the proof is in a combined dosing experiment. Anyone know?

Current research shows that we should have a 2:1 ratio for calcium to magnesium. Because we tend to get more calcium in our diets than magnesium Carol Dean, author of The Magnesium Miracle believes the optimum level is 1,000 mg of calcium and 600 mg of magnesium. Researcher Peter Gillham believes that because we tend to get more calcium in our diets and little magnesium that we should supplement with a 3:2 magnesium to calcium ratio. Our bones need a 2:1 calcium to magnesium but our brains and heart need less calcium and more magnesium to function. He suggested a ration of 3:2 (magnesium : calcium)

If your diet has a lot of calcium, and you take a calcium supplement, the supplement will rob you of your magnesium because calcium needs magnesium to be absorbed. If you get too much calcium, it will end up as calcium deposits in your joints and other parts of your body. If you get too much magnesium, it just gets eliminated though the colon in the form of too loose stools. So it is better to over supplement magnesium than calcium.

[Luminosity]

Thanks Rwac.

Absorbtion differs from person to person. Some people just deposit calcium and even magnesium supplements in the wrong places. Typically, for those people, calcium is harder to process. Typically, liquid supplements may be the most absorbable but that isn't a guarantee. After that, gel caps are usually the next most absorbable.