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[mikeinnaples]

 

So quick to provide perfect examples supporting my comments.

 

Amazing.

 

  HAVE A NICE DAY.  Off topic as well.

 

 

You are responding off topic as well. Hypocrisy much?

That is all you have got.  You didn't answer my question.   Of course.  I tire of this baby stuff.  Have a nice day.

 

Your words have no value to this topic and you are being insulting. Typical.

[shadowhawk]

Along with the two excellent books I recommended here:  http://www.longecity...-16#entry730589

another one is "The True Icon" by Paul Bruce.  You can get it at Amazon as well.  I gave some very interesting evidence in the topic, "Evidence for Christianity," here in this blog.  How did the image get put on the Shroud of Turin?

[Dakman]

Little groups of pixies and elves did it with their magic paint brushes, they worked in shifts of twelve hours each, for fourteen days and fourteen nights.

 

Their work was documented at the time by a grey wolf, her name was Kiullgia and was the female pair of the two grey wolves from the ark, to whom god granted immortality.

 

 

[shadowhawk]

OK we have an example of mocking but how childish.  This is why no serious discussion can take place.  Do you have any evidence? 

[Dakman]

Google it 

[shadowhawk]

I did and you know what came up?  "Dakman!"  Perhaps it was the pixies and elves.

[The Brain]

It's sounds as believable as any thing else in the bible doesn't it ???

Edited by The Brain, 05 June 2015 - 07:53 PM.

[Dakman]

Old School will believe me, he believes in anything 

[Dakman]

 

Here's one of hundreds of photo's I've personally taken of  Kiullgia, she's baying to god, giving thanks for the gift of immortality 

[Danail Bulgaria]

Wait a minute....

 

The light orbs, that are supposed to be the chariots of God, so far are being discounted for not being something else by the "exclusion method".

 

The idea, that they are the chariots of God, is not backed up with evidences. And there are no any evidences at all, only alikeness with an orthodox icon, which is not an evidence, it is a part of the hypothesis.

[shadowhawk]

No one has excluded what all orbs are, in fact despite the mockers who know, we don't know.  We haven't even defined what an orb is and perhaps there are different kinds of orbs.  I suspect there are.  The Icon is a historical fact and it exists.  Before you say it is not evidence, what is evidence?  How is it related to a hypothesis?  Did any of you guys ever take a science class?

[The Brain]

You're a long winded wanker...
Who cares about how you can weasel your way into refusing to accept anything you don't want to accept.

[Danail Bulgaria]

I don't know if the light arround the head of the sain on the icon is an actually visual orb. As far as I know, there are very strict religeon established rules for how orthodox icons have to be drawn. On them all saints have to be drawed with an "oreol" - the looking like light orb arround their heads.

[Dakman]

Isn't the light or halo that we see in these religious images just a human way of interpreting and representing something they believe from a different plane or of a higher existence from ourselves. It's merely a visual way of communicating an idea or concept, it doesn't carry any truth with it.

[shadowhawk]

In classical Christian art saints and holy people often have halos  drawn around their heads to indicate they are special.  The practice of putting them in art comes from claims of seeing auras around people.   These Icons are drawn using a whole set of rules.  They are two dimensional and often tell a story of the persons life in the small details.  They are very interesting to us who know a bit about them and other Christian art.  However the Icon Old School presented is very different and it is in the foundational history of North America.  I gave you sources to study this and why San Diego here in California is named after a key player in this event.

 

Light is an interesting subject when it comes to spiritual subjects.  Christ is the light of the world.  Things like the Shroud of Turan have images created on it which has been investigated by leading scientists but remain unexplained.  I  could say much more and have but rather than have an adult conversation most of the people here are interested in mocking.

[The Brain]

Because you offer up a load of wishy washy biased crap that you then either directly suggest or indirectly (so you've got an out) suggest as being true.

Edited by The Brain, 08 June 2015 - 08:13 PM.

[shadowhawk]

How profound.  Perfect example.  Have a nice day. 

[The Brain]

I call it how it is, it usually sends those whose intentions are corrupt running

[Dakman]

Yes that's right, either running or using an anonymous little bitch slap to rate people as if a little symbol at the bottom of a post carries any weight that is worth recognizing except for it's patheticness 

 

 

 

 

 

These christians really are butthurt on their sky daddy being called out for being the crazy sleazy child molesting enabler that he really is 

Edited by Dakman, 09 June 2015 - 11:42 PM.

[shadowhawk]

So intelligent   and profound. 

[Dakman]

Yes, so profound you have to make weak excuses for not being able to deal with it    

[old_school]

According to Catholic Information, "the Halo is symbolic of divinity and supreme power." Divinity means of, or pertaining to God. The Holy Spirit is God, the third person of the Holy Trinity.

[Lewis Carroll]

According to Catholic Information, "the Halo is symbolic of divinity and supreme power." Divinity means of, or pertaining to God. The Holy Spirit is God, the third person of the Holy Trinity.

And what does "supreme power" mean?

[shadowhawk]

Yes, so profound you have to make weak excuses for not being able to deal with it    

Should I make a response like you are making? It isn't about dealing with it, it is about name calling being so childish that I am not  interested.

 

[shadowhawk]

 

According to Catholic Information, "the Halo is symbolic of divinity and supreme power." Divinity means of, or pertaining to God. The Holy Spirit is God, the third person of the Holy Trinity.

And what does "supreme power" mean?

 

It means power from God to be holy.  It is depicted in some Christian art by a halo.

[old_school]

 

According to Catholic Information, "the Halo is symbolic of divinity and supreme power." Divinity means of, or pertaining to God. The Holy Spirit is God, the third person of the Holy Trinity.

And what does "supreme power" mean?

 

 

The Almighty (omnipotent) power of God.
 

[Danail Bulgaria]

So, in brief, the halo is only symbolic. It ios not actually a real orb of light.

[The Brain]

These are the only two people I've ever seen trying to relate a halo to orbs...

Even then, Shadowdork is only humouring Old Fool to have a god buddy to help him out, and to have something to create an endless loop argument over

[shadowhawk]

So, in brief, the halo is only symbolic. It ios not actually a real orb of light.

HE DIDN'T say that.  There are all kinds of lights and at times God is described as the light of the world.  So, although I wouldn't describe God as appearing as an orb we can be illumined by Him in many different ways.  We have not defined what we are talking about when we use the word orb.  Since you seem to know why don't you tell us.

[Dakman]

 

 

Notice the orb surrounding Kiullgia, proof of her immortality granted by god